Shinji likes space: 3.0/FINAL foreshadowing?
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First of all, that Asuka kamikaze jacket is bangin'. I totally want it. I'm a sucker for military-style clothes. *keeps looking at the store* Oooh, lighters!
Anyway, I just wanted to speculate about something that probably is way off the mark and totally unfounded BUT:
so like I said before in another thread I rewatched 2.22 recently and something I latched on as a neat background detail was "Wow, Shinji's room actually looks semi-decorated instead of just looking like a nondescript room " but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.
With the start of the thread talking about the teaser image of the model, the only thing I thought really was "Maybe in 3.0 +1.0" they go into space? " but then I thought Shinji's already technically been in space being absorbed in the EVA-01 with Rei. Still, I can't shake the thought Anno wouldn't put that in AFTER Shinji comes back to Earth. Maybe the Wunder can go into space or Gendo and Fuyutski have just booked it after the Third Impact to their secret moon base.
Anyway, I just wanted to speculate about something that probably is way off the mark and totally unfounded BUT:
so like I said before in another thread I rewatched 2.22 recently and something I latched on as a neat background detail was "Wow, Shinji's room actually looks semi-decorated instead of just looking like a nondescript room " but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.
With the start of the thread talking about the teaser image of the model, the only thing I thought really was "Maybe in 3.0 +1.0" they go into space? " but then I thought Shinji's already technically been in space being absorbed in the EVA-01 with Rei. Still, I can't shake the thought Anno wouldn't put that in AFTER Shinji comes back to Earth. Maybe the Wunder can go into space or Gendo and Fuyutski have just booked it after the Third Impact to their secret moon base.
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mechashiva wrote: but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.
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" but then I thought Shinji's already technically been in space being absorbed in the EVA-01 with Rei.
Yeah, that's lovely foreshadowing coupled with subtle characterisation, while being the most twisted way of fulfilling your dreams.
Well, at the end of 3.33, the moon's a mess, chilling on the earth's surface, so...
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mechashiva wrote:so like I said before in another thread I rewatched 2.22 recently and something I latched on as a neat background detail was "Wow, Shinji's room actually looks semi-decorated instead of just looking like a nondescript room " but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.
If you look closely, there are also astronomy magazines on his desk, shelves and lying around, not Shinji likes the stars, but he's also apparently a big fan of astrology, which makes it strange when he didn't answered to Kaji when he asked him if he had any hobbies, because obviously he does have one.
Well, there's the theory that neo-NERV's fortress flied through the Door of Guf during Fourth Impact and are now hidden on whatever dimension is on the other side, so WILLE will have to look for them in that dimension.
Since it's pitch black and probably without air, it's a little like space, except without the stars!
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ElMariachi wrote:If you look closely, there are also astronomy magazines on his desk, shelves and lying around, not Shinji likes the stars, but he's also apparently a big fan of astrology, which makes it strange when he didn't answered to Kaji when he asked him if he had any hobbies, because obviously he does have one.
Well, maybe he doesn't know that having interest in something accounts as an hobby. Or maybe he is just ashamed of admitting he's into astrology/astronomy (a rather strange combination; though, in a world, where 14-year olds with issues pilot super-robots everything is possible).
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Well, I figure he doesn't tell Kaji about his interest in astronomy for the same reason I don't tell people I met from my Mom's job about all the stuff I like: I don't know them well enough plus I don't want to get judged for liking something (like cartoons)
The moon's destroyed? Crap, how could I have missed that?
The moon's destroyed? Crap, how could I have missed that?
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That's not the Moon, that's the Black Moon, Lilith's ship.
That's the Moon:
That's not the Moon, that's the Black Moon, Lilith's ship.
That's the Moon:
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Lilith was never on the Moon, she always has been in the center of the Black Moon, underground of the Geofront.
If you're talking about the white giant with the purple mask we see at the end of 1.0, that was one of the ADAMs that was ejected to the Moon during Second Impact, it was later converted into Mark.06 in 2.0.
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That may be a misreading of the original proposal
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_Proposal_%28Translation%29#Page_24_.28Episode_01.29
et seq.
In episode 24
following that the final episodes take place in "the laboratory" (i.e. the GeoFront)
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_Proposal_%28Translation%29#Page_24_.28Episode_01.29
et seq.
In episode 24
At last awakened, the twelve strongest Apostolos descend from the Moon. Both Eva Unit-06 and the American continent vanish completely.
following that the final episodes take place in "the laboratory" (i.e. the GeoFront)
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After reading this thread for a bit, I just thought of something that really clicked into my head.
What if, at the end of Final, Shinji becomes the monument in Eva-01, like at the EoE, in order to remove himself from the equation as an Impact Trigger, and fitting in the theme of sacrifice and atonement? That being he sacrifices his chance of having a life on earth, and leaves so that everyone else has a chance to live?
As in how, I couldn't tell you guys, but the act would fit the possible bittersweet ending that may come, and this time, he wouldn't be alone. He could for eternity travel the cosmos as a silent observer, but with Yui, Rei, and possible Kaworu with him, and he could finally be at peace?
I know it's just a LONG shot of an idea, but with Shinji's interest in Astronomy, it seemed like an idea that clicked with me, and may possibly be what Shinji wants.
What if, at the end of Final, Shinji becomes the monument in Eva-01, like at the EoE, in order to remove himself from the equation as an Impact Trigger, and fitting in the theme of sacrifice and atonement? That being he sacrifices his chance of having a life on earth, and leaves so that everyone else has a chance to live?
As in how, I couldn't tell you guys, but the act would fit the possible bittersweet ending that may come, and this time, he wouldn't be alone. He could for eternity travel the cosmos as a silent observer, but with Yui, Rei, and possible Kaworu with him, and he could finally be at peace?
I know it's just a LONG shot of an idea, but with Shinji's interest in Astronomy, it seemed like an idea that clicked with me, and may possibly be what Shinji wants.
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^^ Not quite sure most here would agree with that proposal (since it apparently goes against the themes of the series, as he's apparently giving up on life), but that would be pretty interesting.
Though, it does give me rather nasty flashbacks to The Matrix Revolutions, which I am so worried the last film is gonna end up being like in terms of execution and plotting. Heck, if the series does end like it, I'm gonna have quite a field day.
Case in point (if it does end like this):
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTnBVDKuNdI[/url]
Though, it does give me rather nasty flashbacks to The Matrix Revolutions, which I am so worried the last film is gonna end up being like in terms of execution and plotting. Heck, if the series does end like it, I'm gonna have quite a field day.
Case in point (if it does end like this):
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTnBVDKuNdI[/url]
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