New Rules for Discussion

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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Hi, everyone. I'm here to announce that we are working on a new set of rules for the discussion subfora. Unfortunately, some users have constantly been violating the site's principle (Enjoy Evangelion and let others enjoy Evangelion) and the Zeroth Rule (Don't be a Jerk). Their poor argumentative strategies have caused good discussions to be pushed aside and some people have expressed feelings of being unhappy or unwelcome as a result. Keep in mind that we've lost long-standing, high-quality posters for this in the past. As such, we are currently devising ways to encourage pleasant, mature, and productive arguments.

Don't get us wrong. We are not trying to shut discussions down; quite the contrary! We want all kinds of threads to be created here on Evageeks! That said, one topic shouldn't harm the other.

Please note that these rules are applicable ONLY for the three subforums under "Evangelion Discussion and Theory" - TV Series + EoE discussion, Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion (plus its own 3.0 + 1.0 subforum) and Everything Else Evangelion. They apply in addition to the general Forum Rules and Guidelines.

Here are the rules:

- Discussions must proceed freely and any bad faith attempts to shut them down will be punished.

- Serious discussions should be based on logic and evidence, rather than on hunches or personal emotional investment. That's not to say you can't question what's being said. However, keep in mind that not everyone interprets the series in the same way. When presented with supporting evidence for a theory you disagree with, do not dismiss it right away.

- Discussions are meant to be fun and there's nothing wrong with trying to be humorous or light-hearted. That said, you shouldn't use "it's just a joke" as an excuse for ad hominem insults or inappropriate tangents. Humorous threads belong either in Off-Topic or Chit-Chat and General, depending on how Eva-related they are.

- Please use the Chit-Chat and General subforum to share your feelings about specific elements of the series, particularly those bits that caused a strong emotional reaction in you (such as anger, disappointment, sadness, etc.)

- Try not to derail ongoing arguments. If necessary, you should create a new thread or look for an older one that covers the topic you wish to discuss.

- If you keep posting things like "Evangelion is much worse than before" or "Shin is objectively a cinematic disaster", we will treat you as a troll. There's nothing wrong with criticizing NTE. However, you must do this in the right places. Not every thread is about the supposed quality of Evangelion; and even with those that are, evidence is paramount. Simply repeating the same points over and over does nothing to further the debate and will just make you look obnoxious and inconsiderate to whoever you are arguing with. Understand that not everything is objective and listen to the other side of the discussion.

- Discussions related to the franchise's lore should not be interrupted on the basis of "Evangelion is all about the characters." No one here is denying the importance of mundane and character-driven moments on the series. Allow others to discuss aspects of the franchise that they care about, even if you might not.

- Discussions about NGE and NTE should focus on the finished product. It's well known that both continuities had complicated production processes. Also, different staffers had distinct personalities and brought unique ideas to the table. Please, try not to rely on questionable information when formulating your arguments (regarding the franchise's development details and the supposed character of its staff, in specific). If you want to discuss these things, there's a whole sub-forum for that (Related Works & People).

- Users who take advantage of their general skills and knowledge to sabotage discussions will be punished. It's good to see that all kinds of people visit our site. We love the insight you all bring to the table, but don't use it to discourage others from adding their own take on things. It's not impossible for someone who has passing knowledge of a subject to spot things that a well-versed other might have missed.

- Attempts to harass or deceive the staff will result in punishment. We are not against any of you guys. Our goal is to help everyone out and encourage healthy discussions. Please treat us like human beings.

- Have fun, but let other folks have fun too.
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Postby Luigi shinji » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:26 pm

I guess it's becouse of me. Well I'm sorry if I'm ruined some peoples conversations with my poor wording but my english knowledge is still not full fleshed out and I'm not sure how to put my thoughts in an understandble context.

So sorry anyone if I ruind a conversation. I guess I keep silent from now on.

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Postby Blockio » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:34 pm

I can assure you that these rules were not made in response to anything you did
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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:28 am

I can add to Blockio's reassurance on this matter. While there were users whose behavior was a factor in creating this set of rules (I won't be naming anyone in public), you were most certainly not one of them.

Don't worry if you feel that your English is not fully fleshed out! We have many users whose first language isn't English and have had trouble expressing themselves, but even so have had long and productive discussions on the forum. The rules are meant to deal with bad behavior, not imperfect knowledge of English, so please don't hesitate to take part in discussions.
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Postby Luigi shinji » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 am

Oh I thought this becouse for a sec I didn't found those threads that I was write in but now I see that they are not in the spoiler section anymore.

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Postby DantesInferno » Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:57 am

Hey, my first language isn't English either! I think these rules are more about the intention of the poster rather than any perceived result (think of Hyuga defending Shinji as the trigger of Near Third Impact against Kitakami in 3.0+1.0 :D )


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