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Postby Elect G-Max » Mon May 06, 2013 11:22 am

It will forever be remembered as that thing that started the year before we got Duke Nukem 3D, and finished 2 years after we got Duke Nukem Forever.

Yes, it took that long.
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Postby Fireball » Mon May 06, 2013 11:25 am

The end of an era :salute:
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Postby AlphaGamma » Mon May 06, 2013 11:34 am

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Oh shit dude, he even went in full "don't talk shit about my waifu" mode in volume 10:
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I liked this scene now that I think about it...


Shinji states that his feelings for Rei aren't romantic somewhere halfway through the manga (whether you want to believe him or not is really up to you). I haven't said anything about him not caring a lot about her (their bond is unique and very strong and you probably know why). That scene is after
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a reaction like that is expected.

Where is written that it's necessary to portrait it?

It's been 19 years since he began, i'm pretty sure he isn't going to leave anything unresolved. I honestly don't see why he should skip over their relationship after giving closure to Shinji/Misato, Shinji/Rei, Shini/Gendo/Yui (in the last chapter)...

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Postby Dima » Mon May 06, 2013 1:02 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:I hope there will be an announcement with the end of the manga, and if its a Rebuild manga, what I would love is

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a manga about the events of the 14 years time skip, although due to the potentially insane things that happened we could glimpse of in 3.0, I think only an animated adaptation could do it justice!


A TV-series with 26 episodes would be perfect.An OVA would take much time to finish.I dont want another Gundam Unicorn.

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Kaworu,Asuka,Mari the main characters.Not a question left for the 14 years gap.And when the series end the release date of FINAL.I can dream right?
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Mon May 06, 2013 1:07 pm

View Original PostAlphaGamma wrote:Shinji states that his feelings for Rei aren't romantic somewhere halfway through the manga (whether you want to believe him or not is really up to you).

Actually I don't even remember reading anything like that, do you remember the exact chapter or at least the relevant volume?
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Postby ElMariachi » Mon May 06, 2013 1:25 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Oh shit dude, he even went in full "don't talk shit about my waifu" mode in volume 10:
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I liked this scene now that I think about it...

Oh sure, one of his friends just kamikazed herself up to save them all, and the other pilot comes and say she was an idiot, there is sure as hell no reason to get angry... :irked:
Frankly it could have been Rei, Asuka, Toji, Misato or even fucking Gendo he would have reacted the same way.

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Actually I don't even remember reading anything like that, do you remember the exact chapter or at least the relevant volume?

Chapter 31, during the NERV blackout :
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Mon May 06, 2013 2:35 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Oh sure, one of his friends just kamikazed herself up to save them all, and the other pilot comes and say she was an idiot, there is sure as hell no reason to get angry... :irked:
Frankly it could have been Rei, Asuka, Toji, Misato or even fucking Gendo he would have reacted the same way.

It was Rei for a reason, nothing happens at random in fiction, Sadamoto wanted to show how he was affected by Rei's death in particular, honestly Shinji didn't seem very bothered by Touji's death if you ask me, his reaction wasn't very different compared to what we see in NGE from what I remember.
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Which only says that he's not "superficially" attracted by Rei, he's not into the kind of relation that Asuka was referring to. He didn't want to "go out with" Rei, he wanted to "go on living with her":
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Postby Bagheera » Mon May 06, 2013 2:47 pm

Shinchan, honest question: do you have siblings? Because I can tell you for real that if I lost a sister (or any other close family, far as that goes) I'd feel exactly like Shinji describes here.

Not saying he doesn't have feelings for Rei in the manga, mind; just noting that it's possible to love people a great deal in completely non-romantic ways, and wondering if you'd recognize the difference.
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Postby Elect G-Max » Mon May 06, 2013 4:14 pm

I definitely don't feel anywhere near as close to my brothers as Shinji is describing here. I'm siding with Hyper-Shinchan; Sadamoto is pretty clearly a S/R shipper.
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Postby ElMariachi » Mon May 06, 2013 6:10 pm

No matter if Shinji really felt romantic or brotherly love for Rei and if Sadamoto really is a R/S shipper or not, the fact is that they can't be together : Shinji is a simple mortal and Rei is back to her status as omniscient Progenitor/Goddess of mankind.
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Postby Dream » Mon May 06, 2013 7:20 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Shinchan, honest question: do you have siblings? Because I can tell you for real that if I lost a sister (or any other close family, far as that goes) I'd feel exactly like Shinji describes here.

Not saying he doesn't have feelings for Rei in the manga, mind; just noting that it's possible to love people a great deal in completely non-romantic ways, and wondering if you'd recognize the difference.


I think that's what Shinchan was referring to: That Shinji and Rei's relationship was more sibling-like than anything. At least that's the impression i got from reading his post.

On topic: I can't say i care much. I have never read the manga, even though i probably should given the Rei scenes.
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Postby Elect G-Max » Mon May 06, 2013 8:11 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:No matter if Shinji really felt romantic or brotherly love for Rei and if Sadamoto really is a R/S shipper or not, the fact is that they can't be together : Shinji is a simple mortal and Rei is back to her status as omniscient Progenitor/Goddess and mankind.


Well, obviously nothing would happen after EoE. But people like to speculate about things going differently.
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Postby SimplyMason0 » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 pm

I am admittedly looking forward to the end of the manga rather than rebuild. I like to see how different Shinji is during the run of the manga and how the EoE arc gave Shinji more likability. Sure I think the anime is superior but the manga is still a good read. I just want Asuka to have very good closure due to the fact shes not Shinji's love interest(or whatever you like to call it, shes much more nicer to him than the anime despite trying to kill him first). I'm not sure what would happen if Shinji and Asuka actually went together, that would just seem too much like a low blow. I know its Eva but the EoE arc is a lot more lighter than the anime despite some of the manga's darker scenes.

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Tue May 07, 2013 4:10 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Shinchan, honest question: do you have siblings?

I do, but I don't remember making promises about going on living together.
View Original PostBagheera wrote:Not saying he doesn't have feelings for Rei in the manga, mind; just noting that it's possible to love people a great deal in completely non-romantic ways, and wondering if you'd recognize the difference.

You people are the best at (conveniently) recognising those differences when it comes to ReiXShinji, I'm not that good at this stuff unfortunately.
View Original PostDream wrote:I think that's what Shinchan was referring to: That Shinji and Rei's relationship was more sibling-like than anything. At least that's the impression i got from reading his post.

How did you get that impression?
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Postby NemZ » Tue May 07, 2013 4:23 am

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:No matter if Shinji really felt romantic or brotherly love for Rei and if Sadamoto really is a R/S shipper or not, the fact is that they can't be together : Shinji is a simple mortal and Rei is back to her status as omniscient Progenitor/Goddess of mankind.


Sure he could, if he chose not to end instrumentality. damn baka...
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Postby ElMariachi » Tue May 07, 2013 5:15 am

View Original PostNemZ wrote:Sure he could, if he chose not to end instrumentality. damn baka...

Except he already chose to end it in the previous chapter, now it's just the last farewells to his parents.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Tue May 07, 2013 5:26 am

In fact Nemz used a counterfactual conditional sentence...
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Postby Dream » Wed May 08, 2013 12:50 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:How did you get that impression?


Not sure, i probably wanted to assume you meant a more innocent, platonic love or something like that. As for the more dramatic interactions between Shinji and Rei (in response to "I have siblings, but i have never promises about going on living together"), it's manga, it tends to be rather dramatic.
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Postby pwhodges » Thu May 09, 2013 3:28 am

It's obvious that the relationship between Shinji and Rei-II in the manga is meant to be romantic - the scene in the garden where Rei talks about their touching on successive past occasions and asks to hold hands again (and Shinji's recollection of this later) makes it clear enough, and shows a dynamic that would not be likely between siblings. But of course with the death of Rei-II this ends.
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Postby LeoXiao » Thu May 09, 2013 2:07 pm

June 4th. The Gate of Heavenly Peace will open and Instrumentality will begin.


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