Eva Unit Format(s) and Name Meaning Discussion
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Well, Eva-01 and Eva-00, which were both built by Nerv Japan, don't look anything alike. But then that might be because they're the test type and prototype, respectively.
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We see the alpha (i.e., first) build of Eva-08 in 3.0, and it looks nothing like the preview Eva-08. Preview Eva-08 was clearly cannibalized into concepts for Eva-13, -06, and -08 during the developmental process; folks need to stop trying to fit it into canon.
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- Shinoyami65
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In any case, we have no idea where Eva-08 was built, and we have no actual examples of any continuity between Eva designs in NME (NME!Eva-04 isn't seen, and the Mark.04 is an entirely different can of worms altogether).
E̱͡v͈̙e͔̰̳͙r̞͍y͏̱̲̭͎̪ṱ͙̣̗̱͠h̰̰i͙n̶̮̟̳͍͍̫͓g̩ ̠͈en̶̖̹̪d̸̙̦͙̜͕͍̞s̸̰.̳̙̺̟̻̀
I always thought I might be bad
Now I know that it's true
Because I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
I always thought I might be bad
Now I know that it's true
Because I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
A Distinction between MARK and UNIT.
I've been wondering recently about the use of the term MARK and UNIT, now this may just be a quibble over terminology but it may explain allot. An example of what I'm getting at is there's allot of confusion over Evangelion MARK 04 being in 3.0 because we know it was destroyed in Nevada during the events of 2.0. However this is referred to a UNIT 04 not MARK 04 at the time. I'm starting to think they're entirely different things being referred to as MARKS or UNITS. Another example is EVA MARK 6 and MARK 9 while all other EVA's (including 13) are referred to as UNITS. 13 being named a UNIT shows its not a change in naming convention from EVA MARK 6 on so i'm confused as to why there are two terms being used, unless they refer to separate types things?
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There appear to be two different terms used throughout the films. Mark evas (ie: Eva Mark.09 and Eva Mark.06) are referred to as such by characters, using the "Mark" designation. "Unit" evas (ie: Eva-02 and Eva-01) are refered to by the Nigouki and Shogouki designations we're familiar with. There are no clues as of yet as to why different designations are used, and there is no evidence of overlap between "Unit" and "Mark" Evas besides the Mark.04/Unit-04. So for all intents and purposes it seems that "Mark" Evas are not a separate line of Evas; for example the Mark.06 is basically Eva-06, but receives a special designation for as yet unknown reasons.
E̱͡v͈̙e͔̰̳͙r̞͍y͏̱̲̭͎̪ṱ͙̣̗̱͠h̰̰i͙n̶̮̟̳͍͍̫͓g̩ ̠͈en̶̖̹̪d̸̙̦͙̜͕͍̞s̸̰.̳̙̺̟̻̀
I always thought I might be bad
Now I know that it's true
Because I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
I always thought I might be bad
Now I know that it's true
Because I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
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dont know that there even is an eva unit 10-12. I like to think Eva 13 is called so because its the harmony between the 1st angel and the 3rd child. 1+3. gendos plan to cast kaworu down may have also had something to do with it. gendos way of hinting ro kaworu what he was going to do. oh gendo and his mind games.
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Except that omega is the 23rd letter of the Greek alphabet, not the thirteenth, the 13th letter is "nu".
And since there will be an entire army of MP-EVAs in Final, we are far from the final iteration in the EVAs series.
Besides there is 8+2!
And since there will be an entire army of MP-EVAs in Final, we are far from the final iteration in the EVAs series.
Besides there is 8+2!
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Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
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Alpha and Omega is often used to mean first and last or beginning and ending (ref: Jesus) without reference to numbers.
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I know, but there isn't use of the letter Omega with EVA-13(the closest thing to the use of the Greek alphabet we have is the uppercase and lowercase Alpha in Kaworu and Shinji's plugsuits), so I thought that Blue Monday was referring to the number of the letter with the number of the EVA.
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Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
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Re: Unit 13 in 3.0 and Beyond-Origins, Nature, Soul etc...
[Mod note: Was first post of a tangent from the Eva-13 topic, quoting this post. --Monk]
While 01/13 and 00/Mark.09 have visual similarities (no doubt intentional) they are also very much different to the point of eliminating the possiblity of recycling parts from previous incarnations. Those armors have been completely redesigned head to toe. This isn't just a "we'll draw it different because we can" production thing either. The new designs are delibaretly different while keeping the old intact. The 2.0 armor designs are still present in Q for 02beta, 08alpha and in the graphic showing 01 in Wunder's core.
While 01/13 and 00/Mark.09 have visual similarities (no doubt intentional) they are also very much different to the point of eliminating the possiblity of recycling parts from previous incarnations. Those armors have been completely redesigned head to toe. This isn't just a "we'll draw it different because we can" production thing either. The new designs are delibaretly different while keeping the old intact. The 2.0 armor designs are still present in Q for 02beta, 08alpha and in the graphic showing 01 in Wunder's core.
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Re: Unit 13 in 3.0 and Beyond-Origins, Nature, Soul etc...
Doesn't the backs of the Eva's seem off though? I can understand the Mark 09, Unit 08, and Eva 13 cause they're new, but I see it in Unit 02 and I look at their backs and I'm like "That seems a little off from what I remember in 2.0."
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Off topic, but that makes me wonder what EVA-02'α was : "dash" in the designation represent the mechanized parts, so there was another version of the mechanized EVA-02 before the one we saw in 3.0?
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Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
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Friendly Reminder: This topic is about Eva-13, not the other ones. And if you must go off on a tangent, please don't mix on-topic and off-topic in the same post, unless you can somehow bring it around to all be really about the topic. That way if the tangent grows sufficiently large it can be more easily split out. Or so I'm assuming that will be the case -- I'm still feeling this gig out, obviously.
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@ Monk Ed : better then to take the discussion from this post and paste it to the "Eva Unit Format(s) and Name Meaning Discussion" thread, no?
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Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
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