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Lilith's scar
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Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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Lilith doesn't have anything to do with 2I, as far as we know.
Also, Misato probably had a huge scar in the original series for the same reason that her dad was bleeding through his parka all over -- odds are he shielded her from shrapnel, but couldn't prevent Misato from taking something in the chest. When she was recovered from the capsule, they had to enlarge the wound to get everything out, plenty of stitches, and voila. Totally mundane scar.
Lilith's scar looks more like the weird cross-shaped craters in ENT, besides.
The boobed out version of the 10th kept its core in the clavicular region, which is above where Lil's scar is.
Lilith doesn't have anything to do with 2I, aside from Lilith being Lilith and 2I being 2I.
The fact that Lilith and Misato share the exact same scar disqualifies it from being a mundane scar; the very definition of mundane is inappropriate. Is it important? Perhaps not. Is it an object of interest? It can certainly be seen as such. There is a unique scar shape both seen on Misato and Lilith.
"Odds are" is a speculation on your part, just as I am speculating on mine. A speculation can't discredit a speculation - only evidence can.
I understand that my previous post was a heavy jump to conclusions. Just because, possibly, they were sucking something out of Lilith doesn't mean they were draining Misato the same way. However, the very fact that they have the same scar implies there is a connection between the two. Whether the connection is explored or not might be less than rewarding but that doesn't go to say that a uniquely-shaped scar is mundane.
So, again: operating under the assumption that something was, indeed, pumped out of Lilith(we can clearly see Lilith has already been tampered with - her mask is exchanged onto an Evangelion unit on the moon), there is a question I'd like to pose: what if, whatever was removed from Misato was also important(in the same way as Lilith is to the series)? What if there are undocumented effects of 2I? Misato survived the Impact the same way both times but came out with different damages. This means that the events of 2I must have strayed from the original NGE series - otherwise, Misato would have the scar(and perhaps not Lilith).
Reichu: "When she was recovered from the capsule, they had to enlarge the wound to get everything out..." and if the "everything out" was of special value?
The fact that Lilith and Misato share the exact same scar disqualifies it from being a mundane scar; the very definition of mundane is inappropriate. Is it important? Perhaps not. Is it an object of interest? It can certainly be seen as such. There is a unique scar shape both seen on Misato and Lilith.
"Odds are" is a speculation on your part, just as I am speculating on mine. A speculation can't discredit a speculation - only evidence can.
I understand that my previous post was a heavy jump to conclusions. Just because, possibly, they were sucking something out of Lilith doesn't mean they were draining Misato the same way. However, the very fact that they have the same scar implies there is a connection between the two. Whether the connection is explored or not might be less than rewarding but that doesn't go to say that a uniquely-shaped scar is mundane.
So, again: operating under the assumption that something was, indeed, pumped out of Lilith(we can clearly see Lilith has already been tampered with - her mask is exchanged onto an Evangelion unit on the moon), there is a question I'd like to pose: what if, whatever was removed from Misato was also important(in the same way as Lilith is to the series)? What if there are undocumented effects of 2I? Misato survived the Impact the same way both times but came out with different damages. This means that the events of 2I must have strayed from the original NGE series - otherwise, Misato would have the scar(and perhaps not Lilith).
Reichu: "When she was recovered from the capsule, they had to enlarge the wound to get everything out..." and if the "everything out" was of special value?
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What's all this about Lilith "clearly" being tampered with anyway? Or Misato and Lilith having the "exact same scar" when the Misato and Lilith in question aren't even from the same continuity? In this continuity, Lilith has the bird-mask from the start, and I don't recall seeing Misato with a scar. Saying that Lilith must have had the Seele mask at some point in the past just because a production sketch had her with it makes about as much sense as saying NGE Kaworu definitely had a cat before his on-screen appearance because he had it in the series proposal. And I really don't get the logic of reasoning backwards from Lilith's scar to a suggestion that Misato's scar in the older show must have had a similar meaning -- as if viewers from the time could see into the future and be all excited that Misato has the same scar that Lilith will have in a movie that's coming out over a decade later.
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Where did we get to see Misato’s scar in NTE anyway? For all we know, Misato’s scar has the same fate that Jet Alone did in NTE: nonexistent in the story thus far.
(FINAL could pull a fast one on us though, and make so Wille was working on the Jet Alone robot these 14 years, and it accidentally cuts Misato on the chest on its maiden voyage.)
(FINAL could pull a fast one on us though, and make so Wille was working on the Jet Alone robot these 14 years, and it accidentally cuts Misato on the chest on its maiden voyage.)
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I'd laugh if we got a JA homage in Final. At this point, though, who knows?
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The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
I'm really not seeing the connection.
The fact that Lilith and Misato share the exact same scar disqualifies it from being a mundane scar;
First, no it doesn't; coincidence is a thing. Second, what scar? Where have we seen Misato's scar in the new movies? I can't recall a single instance of it.
Dude, c'mon. You're just making yourself look bad here.
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The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
Looking again, we do see part of it, yes. But it's not in the same position as Lilith's scar; it's lower on her torso, and running in the opposite direction to boot. It isn't even similar in shape. I can't see any connection whatsoever between the two.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
There could be a thematic and symbolic connection between the scars that doesn't require they look exactly the same nor preclude a mundane in-universe explanation for Misato's injury.
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Statistical fact: Cops will never pull over a man with a huge bong in his car. Why? They fear this man. They know he sees further than they and he will bind them with ancient logics. —Marty Mikalski
I agree with that much, yes.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
I wasn't pointing out that there was a connection between the two; I was merely suggesting that they are both relatively significant characters that played important roles in events leading up to the current Eva-verse.
First, yes it does. Before you try saying something that is wrong, you should actually check whether you're right. Coincidence is not in the scope of a conversation around the word "mundane" - pay attention please. The possibility of a very unusual scar being prominent on Misato and also Lilith can be considered coincidence but it also may not be. And second, I am of course referring to NGE Misato's scar.
Well, yes, but there have been several scenes depicting characters and events happening from the previous series. Anno has, at least, hinted at things carrying over. That doesn't mean that they have but it certainly does leave the possibility.
If I'm looking myself bad here, and you're having trouble following our conversation, then, damn. I'd rather you not reply at all.
There probably is one, Chuck.
First, yes it does. Before you try saying something that is wrong, you should actually check whether you're right. Coincidence is not in the scope of a conversation around the word "mundane" - pay attention please. The possibility of a very unusual scar being prominent on Misato and also Lilith can be considered coincidence but it also may not be. And second, I am of course referring to NGE Misato's scar.
But that's NGE and this is NTE!!!
Well, yes, but there have been several scenes depicting characters and events happening from the previous series. Anno has, at least, hinted at things carrying over. That doesn't mean that they have but it certainly does leave the possibility.
If I'm looking myself bad here, and you're having trouble following our conversation, then, damn. I'd rather you not reply at all.
There probably is one, Chuck.
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Re: Lilith's scar
It did, holy shit xD
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Re: Lilith's scar
In case nobody pointed this out already, the bottom sketch from Yamashita that was posted earlier on this thread shows an umbilical cord coming out of Lilith, with the words "umbilical cord" (へそのお) written beside.
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