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Who Can Be The Seele Children?
Ok so, I am just thinking and thinking..who are the children that are going to have a meeting with Kaworu(also why is he wet?) i also think there will be new charas.
Anything in mind people?
(talking about eva 3.0 preview) [/b]
Anything in mind people?
(talking about eva 3.0 preview) [/b]
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oh, but isn't there just for news and updates?
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Most likely the other pilots. If not, maybe the multiple Reis seen?
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Re: Who Can Be The Seele Children?
I do not think there will be new characters. The cast of characters in Rebuild of Evangelion is already too large for each character to receive a fair amount of screen time / story involvement.
Rebuild has less screen time to tell the story, and adds a new major character in Mari. This is stretching things thin indeed.
What am I saying? Neon Genesis Evangelion (consisting of 26 episodes and a feature-length movie - many more minutes than Rebuild) already had too many characters; Kaworu should have been introduced much earlier than episode 24, and Kaji needed more backstory.
So no, no more new characters. Please! Misato, Ritsuko, Asuka and Kaji remain too undeveloped already. (I am grateful, though, that Kaworu will likely finally receive his due attention in Rebuild 3.0.)
(Although it would be interesting to have the Rei clones shown with distinct personalities.)
Re: Who Can Be The Seele Children?
Nah. The more time he spends on screen, the more yawnworthy and stock evil bishounen he becomes. So much so that Rebuild just decided to make him ridiculously, mustache-twirlingly evil from the get-go.
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Rei clones? I thought they were the pilots. can you provide me with a link to the storyboards?
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Re: Who Can Be The Seele Children?
This is hardly a necessity. Written properly, the character could have had a more proper buildup while still preserving his enigma.
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To backup Gatotsu's statement, just look at Rei. She managed to keep it all up 'till episode 23 (for me, at least).
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Interesting. Remember that the 3.0 preview shows exactly FOUR Reis (three naked younger Reis cowering behind a fourteen-year-old Ayanami in school uniform)? Also, remember that the Second Impact flashback shows FOUR halos, FOUR cores and FOUR beings of light?
Perhaps there is some merit to my argument that Rei is not Lilith this time around, but Adam (or 4 Adams to be precise). And this leaves Kaworu to be Lilith.
Remember in NGE, when Rei was distant and cold, and Kaworu's personality was (to Shinji) warm and fuzzy? And remember that in NGE, Shinji was repulsed by Rei/Lilith when he found out her true nature, but still felt warm and fuzzy about Kaworu after he had squeezed his head off for being an Angel?
In Rebuild, Rei becomes all warm and fuzzy (to Shinji), while Kaworu's personality is cold and distant. In fact, his presence on the moon and his ability to survive there make quite cold and distant from Shinji in a very literal sense.
Further clues in support of the Kaworu-is-Lilith theory are:
- The full moon has always been associated with Lilith and, by extension, NGE-Rei. While Rei is again shown against the backdrop of the (white) full moon in Rebuild 1.0, Rebuild-Kaworu is actually ON that moon (revealed in the very last scene of 1.0).
- At the end of 2.0, Kaworu (inside Unit-06) is seen descending from the moon onto the battlefield, with the full moon showing right above his EVA's halo.
I would not be surprised if Rebuild-Shinji will be repulsed by Rebuild-Kaworu, once he discovers he is more than human. Just like he was repulsed by Rei III and GNR.
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Actually , i dont think they are Rei clones, but who knows , the most appropiated thing is to wait till the movie is out *shrugs*
and i DO want more kaworu and Shinji! (me no like Rei)
Kaworu clearly wans something with Shinji , even if they dont know who is each other xD (he said he was going to make him happy) (jk)
1 more thing! , : In the moon in eva 2.0 , Wen kaworu says , glad to meet you father, I think that by saying father he is refering to Adam in gendo's palm , (dont know if in this movie he has it)
Screw Shinji and Rei! , i want MORE kaworu in this movie anno!!!!
and i DO want more kaworu and Shinji! (me no like Rei)
Kaworu clearly wans something with Shinji , even if they dont know who is each other xD (he said he was going to make him happy) (jk)
1 more thing! , : In the moon in eva 2.0 , Wen kaworu says , glad to meet you father, I think that by saying father he is refering to Adam in gendo's palm , (dont know if in this movie he has it)
Screw Shinji and Rei! , i want MORE kaworu in this movie anno!!!!
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Here's a link, from gwern's Eva archive.
Just to chime in on the whole Kaworu should have had more screentime/buildup thing: i think the suddenness of his appearaence is a big part of what makes him effective. When the hero is struck by a vision on his journey (a common motif), the fact that the vision came out of nowhere makes it all the more powerful. Kaworu plays the role of such a sudden, overwhelming occurrence in Shinji's life, and honestly, i don't really see any other way the character could be utilized. For Q, this means that his screentime will probably be limited, but every second spent with him will be worthvile. Then again, maybe Anno will show me wrong.
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SaltyJoe wrote:Here's a link, from gwern's Eva archive.
Just to chime in on the whole Kaworu should have had more screentime/buildup thing: i think the suddenness of his appearaence is a big part of what makes him effective. When the hero is struck by a vision on his journey (a common motif), the fact that the vision came out of nowhere makes it all the more powerful. Kaworu plays the role of such a sudden, overwhelming occurrence in Shinji's life, and honestly, i don't really see any other way the character could be utilized. For Q, this means that his screentime will probably be limited, but every second spent with him will be worthvile. Then again, maybe Anno will show me wrong.
Ok They can possibly Rei clones , but why are they there? , why chosen by faith?
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SaltyJoe wrote:Here's a link, from gwern's Eva archive.
One mistake I made on the storyboard:
Water’s surface: Seele [? - “水面はセル”]
I'm not sure what I was thinking, but セル is not "Seele" but "seru," probably either "cell" or "cel." "The water's surface is [a/the] [cell/cel]." Maybe refers to an animation cel, or something else?
^ 水面はセル means extra animation cel should be used to depict the water surface (not some CG for example).
I am more interested in the storyboard above the Kaworu meeting 4 Rei clones. There is a sex scene between giant Rei and Eva-01 in 2.0 ??? (the storyboard explicitly said it is a SEX scene).
I am more interested in the storyboard above the Kaworu meeting 4 Rei clones. There is a sex scene between giant Rei and Eva-01 in 2.0 ??? (the storyboard explicitly said it is a SEX scene).
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Ah, I see!
It's a strange scene! It wasn't used in 2.0; it was based on the originally scripted finale, which followed episode 23 much more closely and was changed very late in production. Shinji Higuchi drew the storyboard, and made an interesting comment in the CRC interviews; here is the excerpt. The storyboard is a version, I think, of this scene from episode 23 of the series.
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