First Ancestral Race

[Anonymous_Evafan]

Kako no hokakusho, "of the past" + "written scheme"/"plan". My guess is that they mean a scheme drawn up in advance. (Curse my crappy translation. I'll fix it eventually.)

WTF? Why the hell would the FAR have a plan like that drawn up?

At any rate, Seele themselves -- the ones with the goddam SDSS -- describe the Angels (= Adam's kiddles) as the 'true successors', so they seem to be in essence confirming the bit about Lilith and her offspring being imposters on Earth. If Lilith was -- as you seem to be suggesting, -- MEANT to land on Earth, and the planet was MEANT to be a battleground between rival humans from the beginning, why would they be using this false/true dichotomy?

They didn't need to be on the same planet to end up in a contest of survival*. What ever solar system Lilith was headed to had to be close to ours since she was en-route through ours. Eventually they would have crossed paths. But yeah, you're right these things are as bad as the Spear. The more I think about it the less sense it makes. The SDSS spoke of a contest of survival and said the Angels were the true sucessors, IT MAKES MY HEAD HURT!



*A contest is decribed as:

A struggle for superiority or victory between rivals.

[BobBQ]

The Great Will of the Macrocosm, who was made by the Invisible Pink Unicorn, who was made by the Cosmic Spark, which was made by the Vast Incomprehensible Everything (Including Nothing), which the Mice commissioned from...

That Man, who is standing right behind you.

Hell, maybe the SDSS is just a standard *NIX HOWTO with a lot of frosting thrown on by our favorite Illuminati wannabes.

[Reichu]

WTF? Why the hell would the FAR have a plan like that drawn up?

In the event that you are an <LCL>-based humanoid lifeform and you somehow managed to translate and read this, that means that Scenario Fun Fun Happy Time has happened. You see, two of our Seeds of Life -- you'll read everything you could possibly want to know about them elsewhere, although, granted, you have to translate it all first -- have landed on the same planet, which is Bad. But rather than be Fair and Just Creators and let the rightful Seed kick the crap out of the imposter (upon which all would proceed as it should have), we left our Multipurpose Bioweapon Security Device -- call it whatever you want -- with explicit instructions: In such an instance as this, it is to 'nonmortally pacify' the rightful Seed, <Adam> (but "<Adam>", being a proper noun, is regrettably untranslateable, so just make something up), before she can unleash any children upon this particular world. This measure was intended to handicap her, since, given these rather unusual circumstances, we actually WANTED a rival human species to have time to emerge from the Primordial Ooze Scenario employed by the imposter Seed.

This (hopefully-well-preserved) leaf you are reading is one of many, many copies of a classy document -- handwritten with love, even though technologically assisted printing would have been a hell of a lot easier -- jetisoned from <Adam's> carrier upon the detection of the Primordial Ooze Method imposter. The tome itself is remarkably durable (albeit not indestructible -- what do you think we are, gods?), and if your own tomes can match this one in terms of sheer quality, longevity, and hardiness, we will be very proud ancestors indeed. The container is designed to withstand billions of years of geological abuse and be eventually discoverable by a diminuitive humanoid species (not entirely unlike us, and whose development from the Ooze is essentially guaranteed thanks to the mysterious Evolutionary Predestiny technologies being utilized). Clearly, at least one copy found its way to your human civilization. Since your species is still alive, and apparently has enough free time to dork around and translate our utterly bizarre language, it probably means that <Adam> is still sleeping somewhere. That's good news for you, but not for long.

You are at a crossroads, you see. After a specific span of time -- there are instructions in Section 111-Y to help you determine the exact duration in a way meaningful to your people -- has passed from the near-simultaneous arrival of the imposter and imposition of a handicap upon <Adam> the MBSD will withdraw and <Adam> will wake up and retake the planet. In other words, you'll all be wiped into oblivion as a massive <Anti A.T. Field> overtakes your world and reconditions it for the true successors. (Further details in Section 50-D.) But in the meantime, you have a few options available to you. It depends on how resourceful and eager to survive you are -- and what sort of fate you ultimately desire for your own little subset of humanity. (Since there are two Seeds on one planet, there are some potentially interesting possibilities. Maybe THAT'S what this is really about, fufufu.)

~The First Ancestors

They didn't need to be on the same planet to end up in a contest of survival*. What ever solar system Lilith was headed to had to be close to ours since she was en-route through ours. Eventually they would have crossed paths.

The Lilim make a landing on Earth and greet the locals.
Representative: We come in peace.
Ramiel: SHOOT TO KILL!
*kabloom*

The Angels are rather large and space-demanding, but at least they aren't especially interested in our foodstuffs, our precious metals, or our women.

[Anonymous_Evafan]

<snipage>
~The First Ancestors

That was hilarious! Anyways now the SDSS actually make sense. LONG LIVE FANWANKING!

[Rommel]

Occam's Razor, people.

Personaly, I think it'ss clear, considering that EoE ends in Exogenesis, that this is also how life on Earth got started. Whether there is an ancestral race or not, it seem a result, or after-effect of Instrumentality, that the tools for it are ejected into space after the process is completed and longer needed, carrying all their genetic information.

Now, biologicaly speaking, the arguement is that life on Earth was born in possibly one of two way: spontaneously arising from environmental factors, such as water, concentrations of carbon, etc, in the seas--geothermal vents are usualy thought to be the starting point due to the minerals that would not have been present anywhere else--, and Exogenesis (Panspermia, either directed or indirect), which is the theory that life got here from somewhere else in a metheor or something and took root.

The reason this is a big issue is because the first theory points to life being a rare event, brought about by little more than ecological change, but the seconds implies that life is plentiful through the universe--and more so, in the case of Directed Panspermia, it implies life was put here on purpose.

Now, linking this with EoE, it's not hard to imagine that Lilith/Adam may have gotten here not as the purposeful act of an ancient civilization, but as the final act of a civilization that's already moved into Instrumentality and, as with see in EoE, the tools of the process became scattered in space. One of the most important themese in the series is that of Technology, and how it makes man, a weak animal by any measure the power to dominate the planet. It may not be so far imagining that the path to Instrumentality is designed so that reaching a certain level of techonology is required before anything could be done with it. And this level of technology could only be reached if a species had maxed out their own natural evolution, thus making Instrumentality the only way to survive.

But what do I know. Still, fanwanking is so 1337.

8)

[Anonymous_Evafan]

Occam's Razor, people.

Occam's Razor DOES NOT apply to the Spear, SDSS, or Dummy Plug. There is nothing simple about the damn things.

Personaly, I think it's clear, considering that EoE ends in Exogenesis, that this is also how life on Earth got started. Whether there is an ancestral race or not, it seem a result, or after-effect of Instrumentality, that the tools for it are ejected into space after the process is completed and longer needed, carrying all their genetic information.

How do you come to this conclusion? The CI clearly says otherwise. The fact that Adam and Lilith are referred to as Progenitor Entities implies they were sent to spread life through the Galaxy.

[Reichu]

Reichu is having a hard time figuring out how Rommel's post fits the context of this thread.

[Anonymous_Evafan]

Like all the stuff in this thread directly pertains to said topic.

[Reichu]

Like all the stuff in this thread directly pertains to said topic.

I meant that it seems to come out of nowhere and pretty much ignores the entirety of the thread that preceeded it.

[Rommel]

Eh. Fanwanking without context is still fanwanking and thus totally in context with the thread. Savy?

[flatulant]

What does fanwank mean, anyway?

[Ornette]

What does fanwank mean, anyway?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fanwank&btnG=Google+Search

[Anonymous_Evafan]

Eh. Fanwanking without context is still fanwanking and thus totally in context with the thread. Savy?

Actually no. We fanwank to try to fit all available information into a cohesive scenario. Ignoring said information is a waste of time.