monitoradiation wrote:I just want to interject in here about the use of N3I and 3I. It's perfectly logical that Lilin calls what Shinji did at the end of 2.22 a NEAR Third Impact because it was an aborted "attempt at the Third Impact".
So it follows that it's still perfectly logical that Asuka talks about Shinji "wanting to cause the Third Impact again" because in her mind it's the intention to cause the Impact, not the intention to cause an aborted Impact. (You can only try to cause an Impact. The outcome is either an Impact or an Aborted Impact)
That's a valid interpretation I admit, but then it arise other questions : once the Impact proper begin, everyone calls the event Fourth Impact, be it Kaworu of WILLE :
01:19:22 {Shinji} This is...!
01:19:24 {Kaworu} Fourth Impact.
01:19:28 {Kaworu} This is the opening ritual.
[...]
01:20:06 {Misato} We'll do whatever it takes to keep Fourth Impact in check!
[...]
01:28:01 {Ritsuko} I don't know who did it, but Fourth Impact was stopped.
If the "Third Impact again" Asuka was talking about was a continuation of Shinji's Near Third Impact, then why WILLE calls it Fourth Impact?
I mean Second Impact was also somehow kinda aborted before it completely terraformed the planet and wiped out mankind, yet they don't call it Near Second Impact.
If Shinji's actions in Q is the continuation of something that was aborted, the logical thing would be to call it Third Impact, or Second Near Third Impact or hell, even Near Fourth Impact, since it only triggered material damages and was aborted even faster than N3I?
What Shinji's triggered Impact in 2.0 have different from the others that gave it the adjective Near, every Impact except the First when Lilith terraformed Earth have been aborted before completion and thus could be qualified as Near as well, so why is Shinji's the only one which is considered "near"?
It seems that an Impact must reach a certain undetermined point before being qualified as an actual Impact, the First, Second and apparently Fourth Impacts qualify, but not Shinji's "Third", yet Kaworu insist on calling the event Third Impact. And when Asuka said to Mari that they'll "take care of this before Third Impact starts up again", she said it right in front of what Kaworu said was the epicenter of Third Impact, so it implies that they're gonna stop the event that happened here, in Lilith's Chamber, to resume... event that has nothing to do with Shinji since he was kilometers above when he triggered N3I!
The more you analyze the events, hints of what happened and terms used by the characters and the less the "official version" that Shinji's actions at the end of 2.0 transformed the world into what we see in Q makes any sense. There is obviously a big piece of the puzzle we don't have, as well as Shinji, yet Kaworu didn't deigned to give that huge lacking piece to Shinji, even though he said that he'll "show him the truth he desires".(what does that even means? There is only one truth, be it that you desire it or not)