something is a little bothering me with the characterization of Lillith is the anime,
and how that issue was fully tackled in the movie. Rei/Lillith was : the woman that does not bleed. She says this forth and forth and forth, without evidence that it saddens her by the way. Wait ... it isn't pathologic to not have menstrues at 14, does it mean that Rei already has clue from a long time that she isn't "human", does she know she is a half-clone or whatever ? That point isn't clear for me.
Lillith in the bible in the first woman, BEFORE THE FALL. Before the need for reproduction. Indeed, being immortals, Adam and Eve weren't needing coit for the species to continue existing. Truly enough, Lillith is also in NGE the Mother of All, so of course it can have children. Do you know one woman in christianity, that has given birth without having been screwed before ? C'mon ... As Shinji is indeed a christ-like figure, Rei being metaphorically its mother, Rei is then the Virgin Mary. Something of pure model of womanhood, unstained by men and their vile bodily desires. Inversely, something of a pure kind of love, not necessarily platonic, but outside of the realm of desire and calculation. Hmm, smells like Plato's Symposium's or Phaede's explanation of Eros,
just like the way Socrate refuses Alcbiades's move on him, not because Socrate didn't enjoy physically young boys(C'mon again, all Greeks loved young boys at that time), but because of the former's intent to exchange beauty vs Socrate's wisdom : that is not what love is, in any acceptance of the term.
So, to me Adam and Lillith are meant to be on a certain level of analysis, humans before the Fall that made us the colonny of flawed mortal organisms we are. Humans that were far closer to the divinity.
I think Anno messed up much of lillith's imagery in EoE, because he put a lot of vagina things, and disgusting ones for me( I am not a fan of vagina's imagery, ancients people as well hugely prefered clitoris' ones ), and thoses vaginas mirror the Mother aspect. But doing that, Anno screwed the 'woman that does not bleed' whole thing.
Did he not heard of "Immaculate Conception" ? I can hardly think of a good reason Rei hadn't bled before, but she would eventualy bleed and evolve the 'normal' womanhood.
As for Rei nubility, I don't know, but her physical emanation is much more similar to roman Vestals's than Asuka's or Misato's ! The latter are clearly 'fallen' exemples of women, like Eve.
To put it clearly, I wouldn't feel right to 'screw' Rei if she was a real like person, as said otherwhere here she doesn't show any interest in usual romantic or sexual feeling, strangely enough for her age.
You will say : Rei is like the Evas, which are like Eve extraced from Adam, so Rei is like Eva. But Rei isn't extracted from Adam, whatever Kaworu or Ritsuko said, so this isn't a counterargument per se. Reichu ? I would love answers from feminine hard fans.
Kaworu on the other side, is a reliable romantic pole for boys, because : one, it doesn't involve fixation on the maternal Imago(it is clearly shown that vagina = research of maternal fusion in EoE !(I almost puked from the surabondance of such imagery in EoE) imago and two, desire and calculation are less associated to bishonen than to mature women(perhaps not only for cultural reasons... but in due time).
To me Eva is all about that : going beyond the oedipus complex, and finding another kind of genuine and pure love, like christic love, but not excluding physical exchanges. In EoE Shinji completed the first step, as shown with the departure of Yui, and the attempt to kill Asuka(which obviously symbolizes even more than Misato, 'wordly desires' badly mixed with the true need of love), the previous object of desire-and-hatred of Shinji. As for the second step, because the fucking homophobia of the production(or the public ?) threw the more daring drafts of Ep24, poor little Shinji hasn't gone very far on that road. Shit, not even a kiss !
Last thing(if that already said, sorry) : when GNK appear, the sexual contact symbolized by the lance of longinus and Sho's Koa can not possibly be a coit ... between men
? What brings BLISS to Shinji is NOT penetration in the sanctified womanhood, but the coming of the stylized Kaworu's manhood.ps:please excuse me for language flaws. That was so fun saying those nasty things
the religious reference conveyed a insanely huge meaning about the meaning of this relation. Saying the contrary would be like saying 'oh, the woman that doesn't bleed, it could have been the one that doesn't fart ! ' One can not build mountains of meaning randomly ! One has to be a fucking a genius or blessed by some higher power to do so...
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. She was reborn too in the end, but she lived relatively more hardships than Shinji to do so.
. I screwed up the first account I dunno how, and I ask the modo to overwrite all old posts of the first account with the name of this one right now. I'll try and do it myself somehow, or destroy the first account if I find how.
. You wouldn't laugh at me if it was the case. Hiding what you are, is but most of the time the simplest thing to do, if certainly not the bravest or best, and the other one is to flee society but in some situations it's not possible. Would you say such hypocrisies neven happen ?