2.0 Preview vs. 2.22

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:18 pm

Monkey wrote:I expect improvements and alterations. But it's when there are things, that are shown, that are not even in the movie, that I call bullshit.


Yeah the preview turned out to be a mock-up. At least the TV version of 1.01 had the proper preview (mentioned here).

Apparently Kara had an idea of where to go with things but changed their minds or who knows what. ...Either way, I'd take the Q preview with a grain of salt, myself.

Source plz. I'd love you forever.


AchtungAffen has the source I think. In the meantime, there's this: http://theplanetsthatmatter.com/features/yoshiyuki_sadamoto_young_ace_interview/yoshiyuki_sadamoto_young_ace_interview.html

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"We didn't even know what type of personality the new character should have until well into the production of 2.0" "Her name was going to be Mariko, but got changed halfway"
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:34 pm

The Rebuild films were originally announced to all be released within the span of one year. A new film every three or four months.

Personally I feel that at the very beginning this whole franchise was built to raise capital for Studio Khara to become it's own independent animation studio. You need cash? Do a quicky series of Eva films. Instant profit.
And I just get this vibe that when Anno wrote the first film that was the idea but during production he become enthralled in what he could now do and really began to reconsider this series in a new light. (I would say his reconstruction of Operation Yashima from the ground up was the impetus) Thus after seeing what he could once Film 1 ended he went back to the drawing board and restructred everything.

But who knows. The benefit of making an animation film is that it's easy to keep things secret cause you can do 90% of the work in house. As long as Khara makes sure no one takes a flash drive and posts a series of production art on the net they can keep the development secret. No problem having to deal with location scouting, reshoots, etc.

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:49 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:I'd take the Q preview with a grain of salt, myself.

Yeah. That's what I'm thinking as well.

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:The Rebuild films were originally announced to all be released within the span of one year. A new film every three or four months.

I don't ever remember hearing that.
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Postby NAveryW » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:05 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:I don't ever remember hearing that.
It was when the series was first announced in Newtype, back when it was still called Rebuild. All the films were supposed to be out by the end of 2008. Ha.

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Postby Heromaster111 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:35 pm

Here is the teaser with the original tenative releases date.
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Postby Hotrod93 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:23 am

Im not going to lie I do prefer most of the older ones to the new ones, Than again most people do.

Changes were made I guess to make it look better and give it more of the drawn art instead of the CCGI(Cartoon computer generated image) effects or just because it just needed to be improved?
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Postby carla » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:01 pm

i'm amazed that so many people prefer the original preview. i personally think the new version is gorgeous. :nosebleed:
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Postby NatTheWriter » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:32 pm

^ Same here, for the most part. Mari's scene looks less saturated in 2.22, as the preview had too much pink. Asuka's artwork in the preview looked off, since she had a squat face mostly copied from episode 19. The Adams look beautiful in 2.22 due to the art shift.

Also, the Bardi-scene has a nice, warm pink sky instead of the sickly yellow. :3

Eva-05, 02, and Mark.06 do look a lot better in the preview, though.

...And, yeah, I'm disappointed that Leliel had no role in the movie. D:

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Postby carla » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:48 am

View Original PostNatTheWriter wrote:Eva-05, 02, and Mark.06 do look a lot better in the preview, though.


this seems to be a recurring claim. in the case of mark.06, i agree it looks more sinister in the preview, because it's darker and all. but i think in the new version, it looks sharper and shinier-- which makes it seem more "angelic" in my mind. :tongue: i appreciate that little bit of irony.

besides, it's kaworu. he doesn't need darkness to make himself look creepy. :chuckles:
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Postby Jinroh » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:06 pm

The problem with the new eva-06 is that it kind of looks like some king of insect...

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Postby Helius » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:14 pm

View Original Posttrueno_twentyone wrote:I prefer the areal drop scene for Unit 02 in the preview. There are clouds on the sky! :)


Yeah, while I like the changes made in 2.22 for the most part, I wish they would've kept the clouds! The drop sequence looked much more beautiful in the older version than in 2.22.
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Postby qu4d » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:57 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:Image Image


I LOVE the change... the preview-version totally reminds me of

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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:02 pm

Oh fuck, that episode gave me nightmares as a child fuck you for reminding me of it.
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Postby Rodeo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:30 pm

I like the aerial drop and 06 showcase better in the preview.
The aerial drop because it makes more sense for Eva-02 to show up as a dark silhouette when the sun is behind it like that. The Eva-06 showdown because the colors of the shot in general is horribly gaudy and disgusting in 2.22.
Otherwise, the new ones look much better to me. I especially liked Eva-05's new color scheme and emblem.

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Postby Archaea » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:48 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:I'm going to let the comparisons speak for themselves. Also, click the thumbnails for a larger view.

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So this is what they have been working on instead of Q... extra fine, super-great scrutinizing film polish.


Has anyone pointed out the difference in these guys? The dot (a bindi perhaps??) in the middle of the furthest right Angel's head and the outlined circle in the angel next to it. Any ideas on what these distinguishing features are hinting at? -- oh yea and in 2.0 photo, the angel with the outlined circle seems to be the leader of the 4 while in 2.22 it seems to fulfill a less dominant role.


[sorry if this is a straightforward- duh! answer- I just can't remember what was going on in this scene at all]
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Postby Ornette » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:57 pm

^ that's actually not a difference between the preview and 2.22. The theatrical version had the same thing (well, as far as I can remember). It looked as if they were peering down into something.

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Postby Archaea » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:02 pm

What part of the film is this scene in? I would like to take a closer look at it all, but rather than sift through the entire 2.0 film- perhaps you, or someone else could point me in the right direction?

Do you have any ideas what/ who they are? Souls of Angels, ect
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:19 pm

Those are the Adam(s) from Second Impact.

EDIT: Because I don't believe anybody uploaded it on EGF (this preview really isn't an easily-obtainable thing since it wasn't released on a DVD/BD or anything), here's the corrected 2.0 preview from the 1.01 TV showing: http://www.mediafire.com/?5ymjmoynjzi

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Postby Archaea » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:26 pm

well I should have figured- As with all things Eva, the answer to one question creates two more questions.

What now- 5 Adams? 5 souls for 5 Adams, for one impact?
Is this all common knowledge here? I don't quite understand...

Well After doing some searching on this forum- I have found two threads dedicated to this topic and so here is a sign post, for those as confused as I.
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http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=359290

http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=9175


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Postby JoeD80 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:41 pm

View Original PostArchaea wrote:What part of the film is this scene in?

When Kaji is talking to Shinji at the aquarium, it flashes back to this, right before the Angel appears in orbit.


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