Do you want FINAL to be it or do you want a new show?

[robersora]

While I love Evangelion, sometimes it feels like I'm reading a never ending shonen manga. God damn, I want them to leave Namek. I want the unsaid but explicity things between character to be finally expressed. I want some kind of conclusion.
I would accept if 4.0 was only the movie before the ending, tough. 3.0 was sucha pleseant shock that would be great to have an extended Rebuild.
My biggest fear is getting trolled by Anno in the end.

You are contradicting yourself. You say, you feel like you're watching a random Shonen, while everything that bothers you is what sets Eva apart from normal Shonen.
Either you want a streamlined work with proper closure, or you want Evangelion. A streamlined, conventional ending would be the worst Anno could do to Eva, because it would betray the very heart and soul of the original. If you want proper closure, I'm sorry to tell you, that Eva is the wrong franchise for you.

[Jinroh]

I don't want a new show because they are incapable of following a schedule. Seriously, 2-3 years of wait between each movie? That's borderline insane.

[movieartman]

I don't want a new show because they are incapable of following a schedule. Seriously, 2-3 years of wait between each movie? That's borderline insane.

screw the schedule, have them finish the entire thing THEN release it

[Warren Peace]

Why is that insane? It's perfectly reasonable for animation of this complexity. I wish the films would come out sooner too, but it's a matter of practicality. Mind-blowing anime visuals are produced in years, not months. There's not an infinite supply of people to work in this semi-profitable industry, often times resources go to other productions first because that's the nature of the game. You can film a trilogy of Hollywood blockbusters back-to-back and release them a year apart, but that's not an option for anime of this scale.

[Gendo'sPapa]

I would love for it ... to end.

Seriously. I think the best thing that could happen to Eva after FINAL is for the whole franchise & unvierse to just finish. At the very least go into hibernation for another decade.

But that's not gonna happen.

[Sachi]

You can film a trilogy of Hollywood blockbusters back-to-back and release them a year apart, but that's not an option for anime of this scale.

It's actually cheaper and more effective to get filming done as quickly as possible, especially if you plan on having multiple films; paying actors, reserving sets or locations, etc, causes costs to rise exceedingly if the schedule is too long. With animation, the factors are different and the pressures to do things quickly aren't as prevalent. Animation takes a long time, and unlike the film industry, it isn't as susceptible to losing its budget because of how long it is taking to produce.

[movieartman]

Having gotten off the Rebuild train at the first stop, I would greet any future project with immense indifference. It would have to be something as off the wall as either PuchiEva or Anima, that got outside the fanfic zone.

you stopped watching rebuild after 1.0?
why?

1.) Evangelion is a work that lives in part due to the unanswered questions. That is what makes it interesting. Sure, I'd love to get spelled out everything for me, but then Evangelion would be nothing more than another run-of-the-mill Mecha-show.

2.) ENT lacks severely in character-depth compared to the original. (It still has plenty to offer compared to a Naruto, of course) And that's ok. But Q tried its hardest to make something interesting again, which has slid dangerously near the pitfall of generic entertainment with Ha. And I hope Anno respects the huge clearance he managed to hit with Q.

1.) i dont really agree, the original series did answer a hell of a lot more than what most people give it credit for, the only things left really unanswered is the stuff about seele, and the origins of adam/lilith.

and even if everything was spelled out that would not make it a run of the mill mecha show as its still vasltly more complex and detailed than the majority of said shows out there

2.) ENT & HA stand for what exactly?
rebuild & 2.0?

even if 2.0 was more generic than the rest of the franchise that doesn't make it bad or even flawed just.... simple, less complex... no i can't even agree with thoose as being appropriate descriptions of 2.0, ANYTHING will seem more generic and less complex by comparison to EOE, just cus everything isn't on that level that doesn't mean its a bad film or a flawed part of the franchise
i don't even have a real answer here, its not generic in anyway shape or form.
generic to me is like f__king A good day to die hard, 2.0 hell even 1.0 the most simple and non complex part of the franchise is leagues above such.

1.) Also I really want Shinji and Asuka to make out or something in a similar level, it'll be really disappointing if after decades of soft attraction they don't get together.

2.) I want the unsaid but explicity things between character to be finally expressed.

1.) i 2nd this!
2.) agreed!

[Mr. Tines]

2.) ENT & HA stand for what exactly?
rebuild & 2.0?

Evangelion New Theatrical (i.e. what is inaccurately referred to as the Rebuilds); and the second act (in the Jo-Ha-Kyu sequence of Japanese theatre).

you stopped watching rebuild after 1.0?
why?

Because the closing stages of that movie felt like a bad fanfic, and the 2.0 trailers looked like more of the same plus added Gerry Anderson spaceships. At the time I just bit my tongue, not wanting to piss on everyone else's parade, but then I had to moderate the movie specific sub-forum while everyone who wanted to be spoiler-free (like all but a couple of other staff members) stayed away, and in doing so watched the movie being torn to shreds, confirming my worst suspicions. It's all there in the threads from summer '09. Then Q came around and rendered 90+% of all the added crap in 2.0 irrelevant, anyway (pretty much everything but the Pink Power Ranger, in fact), in pursuit of its own dose of shiny.

But then I'm a cranky old geezer whose interaction with the original was rather atypical to start with, so don't mind me.

[Ray]

An Evangelion TV show set during the space between 2.0 and 3.0 would be perfect for Toonami.

Given NGE is a Cash Cow franchise. . . it could very likely happen. Assuming Final doesn't tick off too many fans.

[robersora]

Evangelion is a work that lives in part due to the unanswered questions. That is what makes it interesting.

Maybe I'll ad an "apparently unanswered" in my quote.

1.) i dont really agree, the original series did answer a hell of a lot more than what most people give it credit for, the only things left really unanswered is the stuff about seele, and the origins of adam/lilith.

Although in my book there would be a lot more to explore, you're right. The main-plot line does stand pretty firmly in regards of answered and non-answered questions ratio. But you have to look for them and they won't be handed to you in a straight-forward manner. Also, I don't think we would debate certain details here on the forums, almost 20 years after it's airing, if everything was that clear. Yes, we are an obsessive bunch, but I think you get the point.

and even if everything was spelled out that would not make it a run of the mill mecha show as its still vasltly more complex and detailed than the majority of said shows out there

But that's why I said in part. Evangelion is mainly about it's characters, which are very complex and that's why the series is so intriguing in the first place. But to me, a part of the fascination stems from the fact, that answers regarding the main plot are not told straight-forwardly.

even if 2.0 was more generic than the rest of the franchise that doesn't make it bad or even flawed just.... simple, less complex... no i can't even agree with thoose as being appropriate descriptions of 2.0, ANYTHING will seem more generic and less complex by comparison to EOE, just cus everything isn't on that level that doesn't mean its a bad film or a flawed part of the franchise
i don't even have a real answer here, its not generic in anyway shape or form.
generic to me is like f__king A good day to die hard, 2.0 hell even 1.0 the most simple and non complex part of the franchise is leagues above such.

You're totally right. But I never said, 2.0 was bad or flawed. That was not my point. Hell, I had an awesome time with that movie! But I compared it to the original series, and that's where the weaknesses become apparent. Even if you only take the lighter "Action-part" of the series and compare it to 2.0, 2.0 comes out as the weaker, more superficial work.
I did not compare it to your conventional Hollywood-Action movie, because, of course 2.0 is leagues above. But I think I made that comment clear when I wrote

(It still has plenty to offer compared to a Naruto, of course)

[movieartman]

Maybe I'll ad an "apparently unanswered" in my quote.

Although in my book there would be a lot more to explore, you're right. The main-plot line does stand pretty firmly in regards of answered and non-answered questions ratio. But you have to look for them and they won't be handed to you in a straight-forward manner. Also, I don't think we would debate certain details here on the forums, almost 20 years after it's airing, if everything was that clear. Yes, we are an obsessive bunch, but I think you get the point.

But that's why I said in part. Evangelion is mainly about it's characters, which are very complex and that's why the series is so intriguing in the first place. But to me, a part of the fascination stems from the fact, that answers regarding the main plot are not told straight-forwardly.

You're totally right. But I never said, 2.0 was bad or flawed. That was not my point. Hell, I had an awesome time with that movie! But I compared it to the original series, and that's where the weaknesses become apparent. Even if you only take the lighter "Action-part" of the series and compare it to 2.0, 2.0 comes out as the weaker, more superficial work.
I did not compare it to your conventional Hollywood-Action movie, because, of course 2.0 is leagues above. But I think I made that comment clear when I wrote

fair enough, i apologize for becoming semi hostile, no disrespect meant.

[ChaddyManPrime]

You know what'd be cool at least in my mind? If they created a show after Final that showed the recovery process and have it focus on the humans alone without the Evas.

Or maybe have humanity get into a conflict with the FAR, like have them turn out to evil bastards like the Reptilians.

[Firetrout]

Or maybe have humanity get into a conflict with the FAR, like have them turn out to evil bastards like the Reptilians.

Is there even FAR in NTE?

[ChaddyManPrime]

^
Most likely cause Lilith and Adam still exist, and they got that moon shit going on. We'll probably never get a mention of them though considering how insignificant they are to the story that's being told.

[Guy Nacks]

You know what'd be cool at least in my mind? If they created a show after Final that showed the recovery process and have it focus on the humans alone without the Evas.

Evangelion: After Story. I like the sound of that. More human drama and character focus.


Honestly, barring that, I really want it to just end. I don't want to feel dependent on some new Eva material coming out, only to have it inevitable fall short of the greatness that the television series was for me. I would have honestly enjoyed Rebuild a hell of a lot more if they took more of a 3.0 approach right from the start and changed things around significantly right from the get-to.


I also want Anno to just to head up something different in the anime world.

[Kendrix]

Is there even FAR in NTE?

Kaworu says the death instinct was "programmed in since time immemorial."

Anno should do something else

...or maybe, he'll do a Rebuild of Nadia instead.

[stern]

You are contradicting yourself. You say, you feel like you're watching a random Shonen, while everything that bothers you is what sets Eva apart from normal Shonen.
Either you want a streamlined work with proper closure, or you want Evangelion. A streamlined, conventional ending would be the worst Anno could do to Eva, because it would betray the very heart and soul of the original. If you want proper closure, I'm sorry to tell you, that Eva is the wrong franchise for you.

No, trainwreck endings are pretty common in plenty of animes, I don't think I'm contradicting myself, and I wouldn't confuse Evangelion qualities (what set it apart from other animes) with how open, inconclusive and "mystified" it is.
But... I'm not even saying that I want a streamlined or conventional narrative, or that inconclusiveness is a bad thing. I loved EoE, specially the final scene and it was the complete opposite of what someone would call streamlined and conventional.

What I am saying is, there are yet many open things in Rebuild, there are even important characters like Mari we only got brief clues of their background and I fear that Anno won't be able/won't have the time/won't have the desire to "close" these things, to explain them, to tie them all in a satisfying final.
I compared with a shonen manga because the situation is very similar, I feel chained to Evangelion in the same way someone kept reading a shonen manga for 10, 20 years.
It's frustrating, but doesn't mean I enjoy Evangelion less.

[Amitch1991]

You know what'd be cool at least in my mind? If they created a show after Final that showed the recovery process and have it focus on the humans alone without the Evas.

That would be fantastic in my opinion , but honestly i think Final will be it, although i would like to see an original series Blu-Ray release :)

[robersora]

What I am saying is, there are yet many open things in Rebuild, there are even important characters like Mari we only got brief clues of their background and I fear that Anno won't be able/won't have the time/won't have the desire to "close" these things, to explain them, to tie them all in a satisfying final.
I compared with a shonen manga because the situation is very similar, I feel chained to Evangelion in the same way someone kept reading a shonen manga for 10, 20 years.
It's frustrating, but doesn't mean I enjoy Evangelion less.

Oh, sorry. That I understood wrongly, I apologise for bitching around.

[Dataprime]

Evangelion: The After Years

Where a 20 something Shinji now married to Asuka
is struggling to raise 2 kids and keep his wife happy


You Can (Not) Escape

SPOILER: Show

Coming this fall to NBC