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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Sat May 31, 2014 9:41 pm

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I know it turned out to be a fan picture but I wonder what Reprise of Evangelion would have been like? The picture certainly caught my interest.

How about a series of One-Shots that explored the Eva Multiverse at large? That could be fun. Each episode would focus on a New Universe, it'd be nice to see Proposal of Evangelion animated.
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Postby EvangelionGodMode » Sat May 31, 2014 10:24 pm

IDC what they do with after Rebuild, but two things, 1.make sure anno is directing 2. Keep the same three main characters(Pilots). The pilots are three of the most recognizable faces in anime history and honestly there probably the reason this is my favorite anime of all time, the robots don't hurt either, but the main characters are what put it above Gundam, RaXephon, and Gurenn Lagann.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:00 pm

View Original PostRosenakahara wrote:Q!Kaworu is more 3 dimensional imho :P [...] meanwhile Rei and kaworu get way more development (hell 3.33 was basically just kaworu and Shinji: the movie)

On the surface, Kaworu is more pleasant that's true, his interactions with Shinji doesn't have the weird and slightly creepy edge they had in NGE, but when you scratch past that, Rebuild!Kaworu's motivations are much more shallow that NGE!Kaworu : the later was sent to trigger Third Impact, but after seeing what the Lilin accomplished, their culture and achievement such as music, and his interaction with Shinji, decided that SEELE's HIP wasn't the right path for mankind and sacrificed himself, sealing the fate of ADAM's offspring; while for the former his whole character and motivations exclusively revolved around Shinji : "I'll make Shinji happy", "I was really born to meet you (Shinji)", "I'm always thinking about you (Shinji)"... it's all Shinji-Shinji-Shinji, without Shinji the guy is absolutely nothing, and we don't even know why Kaworu is so utterly obsessed by Shinji since before even meeting the guy!
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Postby Giji Shinka » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:06 pm

View Original PostRosenakahara wrote:Q!Kaworu is more 3 dimensional imho :P

I think both NME/NGE Kaworu have equally as much depth etc. Though, I personally find NME incarnation of him to be much more interesting character.
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Postby Rosenakahara » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:12 pm

View Original PostGiji Shinka wrote:I think both NME/NGE Kaworu have equally as much depth etc. Though, I personally find NME version of him to be much more interesting.

eh i put manga kaworu and NME kaworu on about the same level solely for that scene wher kaworu killed that cat and the symbolism came back later, if kaworu ran away from nerv and just left lilin alone he wouldnt have anywhere to go or anything to do, seele owns the planet they would get to him somehow, it was better for Shinji to kill him there and then and i really liked that :P
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Postby WunderBah » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:24 pm

View Original PostGiji Shinka wrote:I think both NME/NGE Kaworu have equally as much depth etc. Though, I personally find NME incarnation of him to be much more interesting character.


This.

I like both but i prefer Q!Kaworu more.

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Postby James Sucellus » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:39 pm

I think that instead of a new Eva show, I'd like Anno to create and write an original show, which has a similar level of nuance and complexity. Eva to me doesn't seem ripe for that vast a franchise, as it's a story with a very clear beginning, middle, and end.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:11 pm

^ I agree. The universe revolves around the main characters & the only way the series can start doing anything really new after Rebuild it would have to abandon said characters in search of new stories & character types. Alas, abandoning Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato & the others means jettisoning pretty much everything that makes Evangelion what it is.

I'd love to see Evangelion take a rest after Rebuild ends. But whatever does come next I'm 100% certain Hideaki Anno won't be directing or writing & if he is associated with it it would be in the loosest "producer" role possible.

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Postby Sgt. Griff » Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:08 pm

I would think it'd be cool to have a show with an all new cast, but examining the events leading up to and during second impact.
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Postby Shinoyami65 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:12 pm

View Original PostJames Sucellus wrote:I think that instead of a new Eva show, I'd like Anno to create and write an original show, which has a similar level of nuance and complexity. Eva to me doesn't seem ripe for that vast a franchise, as it's a story with a very clear beginning, middle, and end.


Yeah, I wouldn't want more Eva, I'd want a new franchise with a similar level of depth and created by the same team, similar to how Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze and Haibane Renmei are all great works by the same team but each has their own separate continuity and universe.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:22 pm

I'm not sure whether I want to see more stuff after Rebuild or not.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:14 pm

I feel that Eva's a concept that lends itself well to alternate universe-style spinoffs. Say, for example, a sword and sorcery spin-off. Gainax used to make quite a few images like that, with the characters dropped into a whole new setting. They're all so broken in the main universe that I'd watch it just to see how they turned out :P

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Postby El Squibbonator » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:13 pm

The danger is that once you do that it sort of stops being Evangelion. You might as well make a new show, unless you're doing a crossover/fusion. I think, actually, that after Rebuild I'd like to see Gainax start a brand-new unrelated anime series with the same depth and intellectual rigor as Eva. Kind of like how J. K. Rowling wrote The Casual Vacancy instead of just doing more Harry Potter.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:24 pm

It truly stops being Evangelion when Anno is removed from the equation. The show and it's characters are so heavily based around him and his psyche that his exclusion from overseeing production/writing any Eva-related material, in my eyes, simply makes it a different show.
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Postby TheFourthReplicant » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:04 pm

Gainax can do a spin off, continuation, OVA, whatever they want, as long as it is good.

It all depends if it is good or not.

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Postby pwhodges » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:07 pm

View Original PostTheFourthReplicant wrote:Gainax can do a spin off, continuation, OVA, whatever they want, as long as it is good.

Well, Khara could, you mean...
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Postby TheFourthReplicant » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:51 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:Well, Khara could, you mean...


My bad. Thanks for the correction.

Also, your knowledge of sound and recording is astounding. So good work on that front, even though I am going kinda off topic...
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Postby Squigsquasher » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:29 am

FINAL needs to be done as a Puchi Eva full-length movie, complete with sqeaky noises for dialogue, Gendo on a motorized desk, and everything else that makes Puchi Eva awesome.

So here's the idea:

Stage 1: Brief recap of first 3 films in Puchi style, narrated by Megumi hayashibara on helium- not an electronic voice changer, actual helium. And possibly crack.

Stage 2: Cut to Asuka dragging a hapless Shinji through the desert with Teh Rei close behind. Asuka is of course grumbling and making her usual irritated squeaking with appropriate emoticons. Shinji is whimpering and Rei is silent.

Stage 4: Suddenly, Pen-Pen appears out of nowhere in a tank and brings them all aboard, before driving them off to a bunker where all the supposedly dead characters (Touji, Kensuke, Hikari etc) are waiting. Happy reunion.

Stage 5: MP Evangelions appear from nowhere and attack bunker. All looks lost, when all of a sudden Mari appears in Unit 08+02 and scoops up Asuka. Ridiculous yuri Gattai scene. MP Evas are beaten by yuri power.

Stage 6: WILLE arrives in the Wunder. Misato and Ritsuko exit and start scolding Shinji for running off (in Puchi squeaky gibberish of course). Suddenly Unit 01 bursts out of the side of the Wunder and starts causing havoc. WILLE crew try to stop it but are thoroughly trounced in various amusing ways (being jumped on, being flicked into the distance with a twinkle etc, all non-fatal of course). Misato pleads Shinji to stop the Eva.

Stage 7: Shinji has finally had enough of the series and marches off, before busting out of one of the animator's computers Ring-style and switching to live-action inside Khara's offices (played by a cosplayer), declaring "I quit!" and storming off. He is then persued by live-action Asuka, Rei, Mari and Misato (also played by cosplayers and also bursting out of the computer).

Stage 8: Fade to Looney-Tunes "That's all folks!" screen, except with a hugely smug Anno instead of Porky Pig.
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Postby robersora » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:22 am

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Postby Chroma » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:27 am

An OVA would be very nice, focusing on just about anything that isn't Shinji himself. The world of Rebuild has so much to explore - especially after Q, and an OVA or an OVA series of 3 or so episodes to close things up would be lovely.
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