It's a fine story. Pity the author wrecked it in the second half of the last chapter. He was doing really well up to that point, but chose to go with a downer ending because he couldn't be bothered to take the first half to its logical conclusion.
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It's a fine story. Pity the author wrecked it in the second half of the last chapter. He was doing really well up to that point, but chose to go with a downer ending because he couldn't be bothered to take the first half to its logical conclusion.
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I.e., Asuka blows up Armisael, since she damn well ought to be able to do the same thing Rei did in NGE, Shinji deals with Kaworu as before, and Instrumentality happens and everyone has to actually sort things out. That would have been interesting. Armisael!Impact/Everybody Dies is just a copout in light of everything that had been developed up to that point -- it's like the author said "oh well, Rei's gone now, rest of the story doesn't matter." Lame.
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Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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Bagheera wrote:It's a fine story. Pity the author wrecked it in the second half of the last chapter. He was doing really well up to that point, but chose to go with a downer ending because he couldn't be bothered to take the first half to its logical conclusion.SPOILER: ShowI.e., Asuka blows up Armisael, since she damn well ought to be able to do the same thing Rei did in NGE, Shinji deals with Kaworu as before, and Instrumentality happens and everyone has to actually sort things out. That would have been interesting. Armisael!Impact/Everybody Dies is just a copout in light of everything that had been developed up to that point -- it's like the author said "oh well, Rei's gone now, rest of the story doesn't matter." Lame.
Oh I bet it was a good story, it was recommended on TV Tropes afterall and the stories they listed were all pretty good except for maybe Father but then again I read it cause I'm a sucker for pregnancy fics My favorite being Redhead.
Also I'm not as interested in Rei/Shinji as I use to be, so I kinda don't want to read it. Pretty much now I'm strictly a Misato/Shinji or Asuka/Shinji kind of guy, more leaning on the Asuka/Shinji side of the fence cause I kinda read all the Misato/Shinji fanfics on FFN and Darkscribes.
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I definitely don't want to read Oedipus Ikari now that you told me that Asuka dies, I really can't handle her dying Especially in fanfics, let the poor girl have a freaking break.
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No, you misread what Bagheera said :
No, you misread what Bagheera said :
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EVERYONE DIES, without Rei, Armisael reaches Lilith, starts Third Impact and everyone dies. End of the story.
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But everyone died, so how was it hate against Asuka specifically?
I personally found it very suitable, that the absence of that one girl no one ever really knew or... even mourned when she bites it in canon lead to a huge effect.
That doesn't mean the other characters are rubbish, that means that all of them contributed and things butterfly-effect to hell if you take someone out, especially if that someone was sheduled to have a trademark act of great heroism next.
*episode 12!Misato*
"No, it's just that we need all of your power to create a miracle...."
I personally found it very suitable, that the absence of that one girl no one ever really knew or... even mourned when she bites it in canon lead to a huge effect.
That doesn't mean the other characters are rubbish, that means that all of them contributed and things butterfly-effect to hell if you take someone out, especially if that someone was sheduled to have a trademark act of great heroism next.
*episode 12!Misato*
"No, it's just that we need all of your power to create a miracle...."
I wanted to try harvesting the rice
I wanted to hold Tsubame more
I wanted to stay together forever with the boy I like
I wanted to hold Tsubame more
I wanted to stay together forever with the boy I like
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The problem is less that she dies than that she dies without accomplishing anything, and this while doing exactly what Rei did in the series. So Rei could suicide and kill the Angel and Asuka couldn't, and no reason was given for the discrepancy. It was just a kludge the author used to set up his downer ending, and that's what sucked -- particularly since he had Shinji and Asuka begin to develop a bona fide friendship in the beginning of the last chapter. He could have gone places with that during/after Instrumentality, but nope! He decided to wuss out instead and call it quits. Very disappointing.
It didn't. It was completely arbitrary and, as I said above, completely at odds with what happened in the series. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the exact same situation, but it was the exact same situation. Except Rei got to do it an Asuka didn't, no reason given. So no, not suitable at all, particularly given the buildup earlier in the chapter. It was a copout, pure and simple.
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
I enjoyed the story right up until it got way too literal with the Oedipus references and punted the whole thing into the dumpster with a cop-out ending. That doesn't completely kill it for me, but it knocks it down a level or two, certainly.
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@ Bagheera : Rereading the passage with Asuka in question,
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the self-destruction didn't worked this time because Asuka got all smug and told to Armisael that she was gonna to blow herself up to kill him, to which he answered by getting the hell out before she explodes.
Rei managed to trap Armisael inside EVA-00 by "opening her heart" to him and deploying an anti-AT Field (although it's never explained how she did that, maybe some dormant Lilith powers) to suck him inside the Eva and keep him trapped inside, something Asuka didn't do, hence Armisael escaping. At least that how I think it happened.
Rei managed to trap Armisael inside EVA-00 by "opening her heart" to him and deploying an anti-AT Field (although it's never explained how she did that, maybe some dormant Lilith powers) to suck him inside the Eva and keep him trapped inside, something Asuka didn't do, hence Armisael escaping. At least that how I think it happened.
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EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
ElMariachi wrote:@ Bagheera : Rereading the passage with Asuka in question,SPOILER: Showthe self-destruction didn't worked this time because Asuka got all smug and told to Armisael that she was gonna to blow herself up to kill, to which he answered by getting the hell out before she explodes.
Rei managed to trap Armisael inside EVA-00 by "opening her heart" to him and deploying an anti-AT Field (although it's never explained how she did that, maybe some dormant Lilith powers) to suck him inside the Eva and keep him trapped inside, something Asuka didn't do, hence Armisael escaping. At least that how I think it happened.
I don't recall the story mentioning any of that, nor do I recall anything about an anti-ATF mentioned in ep 23. But it's a copout either way.
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
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[quote="Bagheera"][/quote]
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The problem is less that she dies than that she dies without accomplishing anything, and this while doing exactly what Rei did in the series. So Rei could suicide and kill the Angel and Asuka couldn't, and no reason was given for the discrepancy. It was just a kludge the author used to set up his downer ending, and that's what sucked -- particularly since he had Shinji and Asuka begin to develop a bona fide friendship in the beginning of the last chapter. He could have gone places with that during/after Instrumentality, but nope! He decided to wuss out instead and call it quits. Very disappointing.
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Well that just makes me even more upset, definitely not going to read it
But killing her is ... so tempting.
I guess I didn't technically do it but still I can attest to it.
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Y'know, there's been a lot of talk on EGF lately centering around the idea of Shinji as a villain. So, in the interest of contributing, I bring you this little gem I discovered yesterday (okay, maybe not "villain" minus a few bits, but he's a far darker version than you're probably used to).
Trust me, just read it. I ended up liking it more than I thought I would (I'm not a fan of turning the little fella to the "dark side", so to speak). The last third-or-so of the second chapter is...interesting, to say the least. Damn shame it's yet another dead-in-the-water story, I liked where it was going based on the last chapter.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to continue my search for any and every available LAS story. Hey, everyone's gotta have their own "white whale", ja?
Trust me, just read it. I ended up liking it more than I thought I would (I'm not a fan of turning the little fella to the "dark side", so to speak). The last third-or-so of the second chapter is...interesting, to say the least. Damn shame it's yet another dead-in-the-water story, I liked where it was going based on the last chapter.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to continue my search for any and every available LAS story. Hey, everyone's gotta have their own "white whale", ja?
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I read it a while ago, and... meh. The concept of Shinji as a sort of Hannibal Lecter is nice, but he guesses the pasts and weaknesses of everyone around him so easily that it breaks my suspension of disbelief, most of the time he looks like a straight up psychic!
I read it a while ago, and... meh. The concept of Shinji as a sort of Hannibal Lecter is nice, but he guesses the pasts and weaknesses of everyone around him so easily that it breaks my suspension of disbelief, most of the time he looks like a straight up psychic!
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Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
The author's continually saying " . . . and he was right" doesn't help. The arguments he has Shinji make are simplistic in the extreme, and fail to note that, no matter the reason, the current situation is what it is, and Shinji very much can make a difference in the here and now. When he chooses not to act the consequences of that decision are on his head. Yes, Gendo should have been training him to pilot for the past decade. Yes, Asuka damn well should have been there as well. But neither of those things happened, and here we are, and Shinji's refusing in the here and now. His responsibility for that choice can't be ignored, and yet the author never even hints at addressing it (at least not in the first two chapters, which were all I could stomach on the matter).
So yeah, not a fan.
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Yeah, that too. Okay NERV made a really shitty job in preparing the city for the Angel attacks, but that doesn't change the fact that at this point he was the one who could had saved the city.
I could had understood if he decided to bail out because this situation is fucking insane, but here he deliberately refused to pilot and indirectly caused lots of deaths and immense material damages just to score a point against his father!
And I'm supposed to cheer for this motherfucker!? (and I remember that Sakura died because of his refusal in this story!)
Yeah, that too. Okay NERV made a really shitty job in preparing the city for the Angel attacks, but that doesn't change the fact that at this point he was the one who could had saved the city.
I could had understood if he decided to bail out because this situation is fucking insane, but here he deliberately refused to pilot and indirectly caused lots of deaths and immense material damages just to score a point against his father!
And I'm supposed to cheer for this motherfucker!? (and I remember that Sakura died because of his refusal in this story!)
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EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
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