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Postby Xard » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:01 pm

View Original PostJustacrazyguy wrote:I´m sure that if such a pairing ends up existing, Hyper Shinchan will post pics of it. :lol:


You may not know this since you're a new user but that actually was one of the two original scenarios for EoE's ending. Grimdark, disturbing shit, even by EoE standards.

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Oh, I even stopped caring, Sadamoto started confusing and disappointing me since volume 9.


Manga has been so-so at best for a long while (nearlyimmeaditly after the very first volumes with wich Sadamoto did good job IMO), it's just that it looked like:


For the longest while: Sadamoto's Reifaggotry and Rei-Shinji shipping is the rule, Asuka marginalized

Later stages: Asuka gains central prominence and becomes the most likely pair candidate for Shinji, Rei as romantic interest withers away very quickly

Now: YEAH LOL NO, there probably isn't anything even remotely romantic between Shinji and Asuka after all.


Both Rei and Asuka are pretty much "out" at this point sans weird, stupid Sadamoto bullshit I'm sure he has in sleeve but which I can't predict.

Well, the manga is weak either way so I don't really care apart from "I wonder how Sadamoto is going to screw up things next" factor... though even then I fear he climaxed with Gendo's hand AT Field...

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Postby SEELE-01 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:03 pm

View Original PostSeele00TextOnly wrote:lol I think Asuka seeing Kaji as her transition guide is perfect. As for folks gloating about how that has anything to do with any shipping, I fail to see it. It's perfectly in character, her seeing him well and alive would be very reassuring to her. Besides there's no disputing the legitimate and strong crush she has on him. Folks are being silly.


And in any case, who's surprised?
He significantly lowered the violence of Asuka's end (if any) and allowed Shinji to redeem his character by growing a pair...
I think only volumes 8-11 went overboard with violence (and kitten-slaying)...
For any matter, I like this direction...
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:04 pm

(in response to Xard) As far as Sadamoto 'screwing up' I have no idea. I've been loving the manga so far, at all the turns and differences, and as soon as I saw this Asuka and Kaji page all I could think was 'beautiful and pitch perfect'. If anything this sort of touching moment really reassures me on the quality of how the rest of the ending will play out, however it goes.

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:12 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:You may not know this since you're a new user but that actually was one of the two original scenarios for EoE's ending. Grimdark, disturbing shit, even by EoE standards.

Yeah, the infamous Last B ending.
View Original PostXard wrote:Manga has been so-so at best for a long while (nearlyimmeaditly after the very first volumes with wich Sadamoto did good job IMO), it's just that it looked like:(snip)

Well, I was just fine with the Reifaggotry, Sadamoto managed to further elaborate and humanise her character in a fairly good way, it was just some scenes inserted here and there but it was really nice. It's when things started falling apart that I started wondering "WTF Sadamoto?", I really believe that he lied when he said that he always re-read the whole manga before starting working on it after a long hiatus.
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Postby Blue Monday » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:29 pm

View Original Postarael wrote:and allowed Shinji to redeem his character by growing a pair...

More like Yui/Unit-01 activating just in time in this case.

View Original PostXard wrote:Now: YEAH LOL NO, there probably isn't anything even remotely romantic between Shinji and Asuka after all.

I think TextOnly's point was pretty spot on. I doesn't really eliminate or change anything between Shinji and Asuka. It makes a whole lot of sense for Kaji to be Asuka's transition guide, which was something that wasn't shown in EOE. We don't see if she even gets the standard Rei apparition like all the other recently deceased/killed.
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Postby SEELE-01 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:30 pm

View Original PostBlue Monday wrote:More like Yui/Unit-01 activating just in time in this case.


I recall Shinji asking mommy to turn on and not just sitting there feeling shitty like in EoE...
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Postby EvangelionFan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:37 pm

View Original Postarael wrote:
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I burst out laughing at this

But, uhm, on a serious note - I agree with Seele00's comments about the use of Asuka / Kaji.

And uhm, is there anything else of note in the new chapter?
Or was it just those two pages?
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Postby Blue Monday » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:55 pm

View Original Postarael wrote:I recall Shinji asking mommy to turn on and not just sitting there feeling shitty like in EoE...

Is that really the case?

Hmm. Will have to flick through volume 12 again when I get home later today...
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Postby 1731298478 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:58 pm

Asuka: "Kaji-san... See? After all, you loved me too, didn't you?"

Shinji [?]: I couldn't protect anybody. Everybody died. Because of me.
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Postby SEELE-01 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:02 pm

View Original PostBlue Monday wrote:Is that really the case?

Hmm. Will have to flick through volume 12 again when I get home later today...


Stage 84 (pages 20-22)
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:29 pm

View Original PostEvangelionFan wrote:And uhm, is there anything else of note in the new chapter?
Or was it just those two pages?

Officially Young Ace will come out tomorrow, yaraon uploaded only those two pics for now.
Anyway, whoever posted this is a genius, I lolled for 4-5 minutes.
On a serious note, thanks for the translation 1731298478, the last part was easy to guess thanks to the full katakana mode, but the rest...
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Postby deeRez » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:10 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Anyway, whoever posted this is a genius, I lolled for 4-5 minutes.


Who does Sadamoto relate to more, Shinji or Kaji?
Kaji = Embodiment of Sadamoto.
He's keeping her to himself. Smart man, smart man.

But to be honest, this is probably just a side-step thing, with the manga ending on the beach as well. And the Rei people are weird cause that's a clone of his mother. So that alternative doesn't make sense either.
In and of itself, self-evident.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:19 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:On a serious note, thanks for the translation 1731298478, the last part was easy to guess thanks to the full katakana mode, but the rest...

The full katakana mode slowed my reading comprehension down to a crawl. (IT'S LIKE READING FULL CAPS, BUT SO MUCH WORSE.) Mixed kanji and hiragana flows so much better.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:25 pm

^
That probably happens when you actually studied Japanese, it's a different matter when you just happened to learn katakana because of games and you know what they're saying because you heard those phrases countless times in subbed anime.
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Postby Blue Monday » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:30 pm

What is it with katakana? I'm fine with hiragana and learning kanji at a slow pace but every time katakana pops up, I have to get the good damn cheat sheet out.

I blame it on the fact I never did the 'sheets' for them... You know. The ones where you do the character over and over til you fill the page out? Yeah. Those ones.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:51 pm

Someone on THAT BOARD posted more pages:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3117/1346577008076.jpg
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7376/1346576754751.jpg
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/565/1346576763538.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9830/1346576069909.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4559/1346576208223.jpg
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Postby Blue Monday » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:00 am

He missed Hyuga's look of bliss and sheer terror at the same time.

Just gettin' the terror vibe here...
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Postby 1731298478 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:42 am

I think this is about the translation~
Shinji.
You probably understand how I feel.
Clear away everything.
This world where there is only suffering -
This world filled with despair -
Unify it -
So that no one will suffer any more -

The world overflows with sadness.
Emptiness envelops people.
Loneliness fills the human heart.

No! Help me! Waaaa -

The A.T. Fields...
Everyone's A.T. Fields are disappearing!
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:47 am

Thanks again for the translation, I was hoping in a better handling of the mysterious case of Shigeru but effectively Sadamoto also half-messed up Hyuga like Blue Monday said. I'm curious about Maya at this point.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:08 am

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:That probably happens when you actually studied Japanese

Calling what I've done "studying" feels a bit charitable. :hahaha:

Weird that Sadamoto put school uniforms on the Rei that swarm Aoba... but made them more explicitly a bunch of loli groupies eager to get him out of his clothes. (And did they!)
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