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Postby AyrYntake » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:21 pm

Hell, they'd have known what humanity was like if they created the whole shebang. It was just natural that humanity was gonna be curious about Adam and, human as we are, try to harness his power for our own selfish ends.
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Postby Formless One » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:29 pm

Hell, they'd have known what humanity was like if they created the whole shebang.

Not exactly; the strategy of Lillith as a progenitor seems to be to start life at the beginning, make it look natural, and let intelligent life evolve on its own, with souls provided by Lillith. Thus, human nature was not a given or a known quantity until after we evolved, billions of years after she got here. Therefor, the FAR would have had no way to predict just how selfish and stupid humans like the Seele gang and the Katsuragi expedition could get, because it was not pre-programed or predictable. Ergo, they still cannot be held accountable for the evils of Seele and others.
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Postby AyrYntake » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:40 pm

Damn. In that case, somewhere in the galaxy the FAR are turning in their graves.
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:42 pm

AyrYntake wrote:What if Rei(Lilith) and Kaworu are FAR masquerading as humans/angels who wanted to put humanity out of their misery?
YOU SHUT UP! YOU SHUT YOUR GОDDАMN MOUTH! THAT'S NOT RIGHT AT ALL! Episode 24' and EoE clearly show that Rei and Kaworu have the souls of Adam and Lilith respectively, who were created by the FAR and thus aren't the FAR. Also, their bodies come from human genetic material. Rei's is Yui and Kaworu's donor is unknown.
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Postby IrkenEvangelion » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:25 pm

Calm down, that's common knowlegde. If he doesn't understand that it's his problem
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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:23 am

NAveryW wrote:
AyrYntake wrote:What if Rei(Lilith) and Kaworu are FAR masquerading as humans/angels who wanted to put humanity out of their misery?
YOU SHUT UP! YOU SHUT YOUR GОDDАMN MOUTH! THAT'S NOT RIGHT AT ALL! Episode 24' and EoE clearly show that Rei and Kaworu have the souls of Adam and Lilith respectively, who were created by the FAR and thus aren't the FAR. Also, their bodies come from human genetic material. Rei's is Yui and Kaworu's donor is unknown.


I have entertained one crackpot theory that all the FAR either transplanted their souls into Seed bodies, or split into two Seeds naturally, and then populated the universe.

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Postby AyrYntake » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:40 am

IrkenEvangelion wrote:Calm down, that's common knowlegde. If he doesn't understand that it's his problem

I understand it, and I know it was an insane idea, but oh well...
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Postby Reichu » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:50 am

AuraTwilight wrote:I have entertained one crackpot theory that all the FAR either transplanted their souls into Seed bodies

Seeds having the souls of FAR individuals isn't "crackpot" on its own.

This thread is getting a little off-topic.
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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:02 pm

Reichu wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:I have entertained one crackpot theory that all the FAR either transplanted their souls into Seed bodies

Seeds having the souls of FAR individuals isn't "crackpot" on its own.


Well, no, not if you only quote half the sentence, and thus HALF the idea. Course not.

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Postby AyrYntake » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:58 pm

Looks like I'm not the only insane one over here...high five! :kirby_yay:
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Postby Reichu » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:40 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, no, not if you only quote half the sentence, and thus HALF the idea. Course not.

Aww, cut me a little slack. I saw an opportunity for shameless self-promotion, and I went...

Let's talk about Angels again.

All this stuff about Adam blowing chunks is gonna make me sick. I prefer eggs. So much elegance for objects that come out of somebody's backside.
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Postby AyrYntake » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:56 am

Alright then, "eggs" if you like. They didn't have to come out of Adam's backside anyway.
At least we know the CI states that 2I "blew Adam completely apart". That seems to fall in line with the other existing arguments on this thread.
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