Is Evangelion your FAVORITE anime?

[Executor]

I wonder: Why the fuck cant anime fanbois(or girls) distinguish the difference between anime and cartoons. They are the FUCKING SAME, ONLY WITH A FUCKING DIFFERENT DRAWING STYLE!!!!

I beg to differ.

In the US, cartoons are almost exclusively marketed to Ickle Bratkins. That right there kills any interest I might have in them.

True, but they are basically the same thing, only drawn, and to different ages.

[BrikHaus]

Cartoons for some reason have a negative, child-like connotation. These fapboys have a desire to be considered seriously, as adults, so use the word anime instead of cartoons. These people are idiots. Cartoons rock, especially Japanese cartoons. In fact, Evangelion is one of my most favorite cartoons of all time.

[Executor]

Cartoons for some reason have a negative, child-like connotation. These fapboys have a desire to be considered seriously, as adults, so use the word anime instead of cartoons. These people are idiots. Cartoons rock, especially Japanese cartoons. In fact, Evangelion is one of my most favorite cartoons of all time.

Indeed, good point.

[slothen]

arguing semantics is pointless and horribly off topic. You can call it cartoons, anime, whatever. By distinguishing them im trying to outline that there's a big difference between saturday morning cartoons and stuff like NGE, Ghost in the Shell, and Texhnolyze. However, both "cartoons" and "anime" use many of the same techniques in their creation, so yes. Technically they are the same thing. I just find it convenient to use the two names to distinguish the different types of shows. If you think its retarded, then you're probobly right. Its still bullshit semantics, go argue it somewhere else, im sorry I brought it up.

so, queue up Spike telling us to get back on topic bitches.

Ahem,

YES OMG I LUV EVANGELioN AND LIEK Asuka IS THE HAWTEST ITS MY FaVORITE ANIME EVAR CUZ IT WAS LIKE MY FIRST ONE!!

[Eva Yojimbo]

Cartoons for some reason have a negative, child-like connotation. These fapboys have a desire to be considered seriously, as adults, so use the word anime instead of cartoons. These people are idiots. Cartoons rock, especially Japanese cartoons. In fact, Evangelion is one of my most favorite cartoons of all time.

I never used the term "anime" to refer to animation that was "more mature" or "adult oriented". I just figured the two referenced American (cartoon), and Japanese (anime). I mean, didn't the term "anime" originate from Japan? Cartoons have been around for forever (came from Italy, I think), and because of the similarity between early animation and cartoons, early animation became known as cartoons and the term kinda stuck over here.

Pokemon is anime, and Pokemon is as silly and childish as it gets. Conversely, Batman:TAS is a cartoon, and it's one of the most kickass things ever (better than the majority of anime out there). In reality, they're both actually just "animation". One American and one Japanese in origin.

I'd say it's just a cultural thing, not a maturity thing.

[BrikHaus]

words

Actually, I was referring to the people that get pissed off when you call anime a cartoon, and try to explain how there is a difference between them in content. I hope you know what I mean, it wasn't directed at you.

[Eva Yojimbo]

Actually, I was referring to the people that get pissed off when you call anime a cartoon, and try to explain how there is a difference between them in content. I hope you know what I mean, it wasn't directed at you.

Well, I'd never get pissed off. But there is this kind of mentality over here in the US when it comes to the relationship between adults and animation that it's all either just for kids, or silly comedies like The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, etc. To most people, dramatic animation doesn't exist. So the term "cartoon" becomes synonymous with Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny and other kids shows.

I think that's why some people get offended. Because when someone says "You like cartoons?", there's this implied patronization. And a lot of that is because of the connotation of the word "cartoon" over here.

[Sailor Star Dust]

Something I learned quite awhile ago:


IN Japan, THE TERM "ANIME" IS USED FOR ALL ANIMATION, NOT JUST STUFF THAT'S MADE IN Japan.

(And yes, caps lock=cool, but /=/ saracasm. ;))

I like what Eva Yojimbo had to say though...

[sensei_juice]

Back on topic:
Oddly enough, Evangelion is the only series I've seen the entirety of (I've seen large sections of about ten others, as well as read sections of many manga series); however, I doubt anything I read or see will ever match it. I've read many more books than I have seen manga and anime combined, so I can still recognize quality and depth when I see it.

[Shwiggie]

Robotech/Macross was my favorite anime series before NGE came along. Stylistically and thematically, I think Macross set the stage for a show like Evangelion. Mecha aside, I've always been partial to shonen like Kimagure Orange Road and Love Hina. Hey, it can't all be "hard work".

I believe the greats stand on their own, even today. Macross to me is just as enjoyable and dramatic today as it was back when...which is why I bought the new release of Macross despite already owning the Robotech version (ADV's Legacy series...w/out the Animego'd remastering).

You had to have that particular series (and Gundam before that, and later works such as Gunbuster and the like) before you could get to Eva, which has gone on to likely be the single most influential, for better or worse, anime series of the nineties.

[Eva Yojimbo]

Something I learned quite awhile ago:


IN Japan, THE TERM "ANIME" IS USED FOR ALL ANIMATION, NOT JUST STUFF THAT'S MADE IN Japan.

It makes sense as "anime" just seems short for "animation" to me.

The term "cartoon" is something that's been around for a long time and originally applied to certain illustrations that were usually humerous. But throughout the years it was also applied to comic strips and other things. When animation was invented, it resembled moving comic strip cartoons, so animation became known as cartoons.

Somewhere along the line, any animations that was child-like or humerous in nature got associated with the term "cartoon". And the two (over here) became synonymous with each other. When we (America) discovered anime and its more dramatic works, the term "cartoon" didn't really seem to fit, because we associated "cartoons" with being humerous or for children. We found out they were from Japan, and I think before there was even "anime", there was the term "Japanimation". Then the simpler term "anime" was adopted because that's what the Japanese called animation.

Even though this is an argument over semantics, it's also almost a differentiation of genres to us. In the music world this could be associated with the terms "hard rock" and "heavy metal". To most people they're interchangable and mean the same thing (just like cartoon and animation, it's just semantics). To some, they're different genres with different bands belonging to each. Depends on how you look at it.

[Gendo'sPapa]

Oh Eva's my fave. And because of that I actually got into Studio Gainax and have studied it like I would any film director. Intersting.

Also I'd like to throw out one little opinion-

I absolutly HATE "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" with a passion.

[Tokpile Quohog]

Oh Eva's my fave. And because of that I actually got into Studio Gainax and have studied it like I would any film director. Intersting.

Also I'd like to throw out one little opinion-

I absolutly HATE "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" with a passion.

You got into Studio Gainax?

Oh and why do you hate Haruhi so much? Everyone else seems to love it and its been recommended to me by several friends.

[Ejinathan]

Wow you actually got in there . I want like to start my own studio, even ready to buy my thai mate lol.

But ofcourse NGE inspired me

[THE Hal E. Burton 9000]

Oh Eva's my fave. And because of that I actually got into Studio Gainax and have studied it like I would any film director. Intersting. <snip>

Really? How was this accomplished? Paleeeaaaze, do tell!

[Trigger's Elysium]

Eh. I thought Haruhi was a great show. It's one of my favorites.

[Zkh]

Haruhi is a B grade show, the fans are almost as annoying as NGE fanboys.


Almost.

[BrikHaus]

Haruhi is a B grade show, the fans are almost as annoying as NGE fanboys.

I love both shows. Both sets of fans are incredibly annoying. I guess liking both would make me doubly annoying.

[Ornette]

Haruhi is a B grade show, the fans are almost as annoying as NGE fanboys.

I love both shows. Both sets of fans are incredibly annoying. I guess liking both would make me doubly annoying.

Only if you're a rabid fan of both shows and explode in a fury of 1337speak/broken english every time someone says something bad about either one.

[TheAyanamiOtaku]

um...i don't know who's arguing with who, but...

NGE is my my favorite anime series from all that I have watched. It's extremely deep, which I very much like. A shallow or predictable/cliche storyline just makes me go to sleep ^^