Fireball wrote:I watched it the other day too and it had some ridiculous forced situations
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Not to mention the moment realise that Zod wanted to terraform the earth with dubstep because he wouldn't let his people subject to a few headaches from the atmoshpere.
Guess it's hard to make a good Sups movie in this day and age. Still, probably the best Dragon Ball film we'll ever get.
I thought that
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Superman killing Zod worked. Nolan didn't direct but this is a very Nolaney film and it lifted a bunch of stuff from various sources in the comics. In this case, Zod is partly lifted from Byrne's run on the comics, in which Superman executes Zod and his crew with Kryptonite because there's no other way to stop them.
The problem was that they didn't sell it. They never really made it clear why this character would be so reluctant to kill him... and they cheated by making it an immediate decision whether or not to save that group of people when Zod and his crew had pretty clearly already killed thousands, probably tens of thousands of people in Metropolis already. Unless all of those people the buildings were falling on managed to miraculously wind up in little debris pockets like Jenny Olsen. Putting some faces in imminent danger gave him a kind of an out for killing Zod, when it should have been a weightier decision to make and a defining moment for the character.
This probably IS nitpicky, but he really should have been trying to get Zod away from a populated area, especially during the Smallville fight. They really missed out on making the fights even more kinetic and more importantly, letting them add some characterization in addition to the spectacle.
The movie really felt like a summary of a better story to me, like it assumes you already know the story.
I think they really missed a chance with the terraforming/colonization plot. It would have been a real shocker for the audience and a meatier story if they skipped Zod and just had Jor-El planning to terraform Earth. The whole idea of Clark/Kal being a bridge between peoples or whatever adds nothing to the story as such and if you cut out a couple of throwaway lines mentioning it, you lose nothing.
Parts of the origin were good, but Pa Kent's death was lame and incredibly forced and his death added nothing to the movie except an homage to the Reeve films. I'd rather they just skipped it entirely and focused on Clark wandering the world and finding himself while Lois tracks him down. That was a neat idea that basically had five minutes of screen time and no development.
The other thing that was weird was that there was no "moment". I get that they didn't want to be cheesy, but Superman didn't come off as particularly heroic. Everyone goes from hating and fearing him to adoring him in five minutes.
It's funny- all the little details are right. I love the way they portrayed his powers, but they had this thing where they wanted to modernize and update everything, but it's like they were afraid to go through with it and kept veering back into a safe space and it made the movie feel really gutless. It didn't really add anything to the screen portrayal of Superman except updated special effects.
Really, its' guilty of the biggest sin- to tell a good Superman story you have to throw a problem at him that he can't solve by punching it (or whipping out a spur of the moment, highly specific superpower).
MoS had about five ideas for really good movies in it that ended up getting buried.
The problem was that they didn't sell it. They never really made it clear why this character would be so reluctant to kill him... and they cheated by making it an immediate decision whether or not to save that group of people when Zod and his crew had pretty clearly already killed thousands, probably tens of thousands of people in Metropolis already. Unless all of those people the buildings were falling on managed to miraculously wind up in little debris pockets like Jenny Olsen. Putting some faces in imminent danger gave him a kind of an out for killing Zod, when it should have been a weightier decision to make and a defining moment for the character.
This probably IS nitpicky, but he really should have been trying to get Zod away from a populated area, especially during the Smallville fight. They really missed out on making the fights even more kinetic and more importantly, letting them add some characterization in addition to the spectacle.
The movie really felt like a summary of a better story to me, like it assumes you already know the story.
I think they really missed a chance with the terraforming/colonization plot. It would have been a real shocker for the audience and a meatier story if they skipped Zod and just had Jor-El planning to terraform Earth. The whole idea of Clark/Kal being a bridge between peoples or whatever adds nothing to the story as such and if you cut out a couple of throwaway lines mentioning it, you lose nothing.
Parts of the origin were good, but Pa Kent's death was lame and incredibly forced and his death added nothing to the movie except an homage to the Reeve films. I'd rather they just skipped it entirely and focused on Clark wandering the world and finding himself while Lois tracks him down. That was a neat idea that basically had five minutes of screen time and no development.
The other thing that was weird was that there was no "moment". I get that they didn't want to be cheesy, but Superman didn't come off as particularly heroic. Everyone goes from hating and fearing him to adoring him in five minutes.
It's funny- all the little details are right. I love the way they portrayed his powers, but they had this thing where they wanted to modernize and update everything, but it's like they were afraid to go through with it and kept veering back into a safe space and it made the movie feel really gutless. It didn't really add anything to the screen portrayal of Superman except updated special effects.
Really, its' guilty of the biggest sin- to tell a good Superman story you have to throw a problem at him that he can't solve by punching it (or whipping out a spur of the moment, highly specific superpower).
MoS had about five ideas for really good movies in it that ended up getting buried.
