Asuka's role in 3.0 & Beyond

[Kodaemon]

"Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein!"

[Na7e]

implying it isn't a plot point and that Asuka hasn't been human/angel hybrid since Bardiel incident

Well, most of the speculation has been around mental contamination. Ritsuko remarked that all traces of physical contamination were suppressed. Asuka having Heterochromia iridum was actually quite common. But, considering Q has been marketing as a new story...I wouldn't be surprised if it was retconned.

[Xard]

Well, most of the speculation has been around mental contamination. Ritsuko remarked that all traces of physical contamination were suppressed. Asuka having Heterochromia iridum was actually quite common. But, considering Q has been marketing as a new story...I wouldn't be surprised if it was retconned.

NERV has such a solid track record with forecasting and noticing these things amirite? Angel can be purely spiritual/mental being too, y'know, so the fusion could've happened at "higher level" so to speak and it is now reflected in her eye.


Whatever the details I eat my hat if Asuka isn't now Angel in some sense.

[UBERGEEKZILLA]

oh my god...Asuka is NOT an angel. they may be changing a lot of things but making Asuka being an angel is too ridiculous even for EVA, and making her an angel would just ruin the whole franchise....the reason her eye glows blue? maybe she has some sort of mechanical eye.

[Xard]

So pumped! HQ version where?!

Japanese haet HD trailers, sad but true esp. in case of anime :(

I wouldn't be too hopeful

oh my god...Asuka is NOT an angel. they may be changing a lot of things but making Asuka being an angel is too ridiculous even for EVA, and making her an angel would just ruin the whole franchise....the reason her eye glows blue? maybe she has some sort of mechanical eye.

Uhh, looking back at original series and symbolically the Angels are human alright. Misato even calls them alternate possible forms of humanity. This is why Angels literally become more Human further the story progresses to the point final Angel NERV fights against is "humanity" itself.

It wouldn't be at all out of place in Evaverse. We already have Angel-human hybrids in form of Rei and Kaworu anyway.


Asuka being the 11th Angel would make sense from numerous angles and also solve the mystery of what happened to it.

[UBERGEEKZILLA]

well even if Asuka has an angel infection theres no way in hell she will be a full on angel or the final one

[JoeD80]

I interpreted Kaworu's line as dying as the thirteenth angel and also being the first to mean that there are no more angels after him.

[Na7e]

NERV has such a solid track record with forecasting and noticing these things amirite? Angel can be purely spiritual/mental being too, y'know, so the fusion could've happened at "higher level" so to speak and it is now reflected in her eye.

Well...yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. After reading the spoilers, I wouldn't be surprised if something like Higuchi's concepts from the Unit-03 debacle being used.

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[Xard]

well even if Asuka has an angel infection theres no way in hell she will be a full on angel or the final one

I'm not saying FULL ON Angel, either she has become fused (on ego level too) with the 11th or then it exists inside her as a separate entity like a split personality.

[UBERGEEKZILLA]

I'm not saying FULL ON Angel, either she has become fused (on ego level too) with the 11th or then it exists inside her as a separate entity like a split personality.

oh so what you mean is....she wont be an enemy or a full on 11th angel or something like that. she just has a bit of its dna

[TheTuna]

I'm quite curious as to whether this seeming Angelic infection is specifically the reason that Asuka calls WILLE "Lilim". Maybe only she, and not the other pilots, is blurring the boundaries of humanity?

That said, I expect that whatever the problem is, she's got it under control; fourteen years have passed since the Bardiel incident, after all.

Hopefully they actually delve into what's shown happening to Asuka here in greater depth with 4.0.

[Electric Sachiel]

Beast Mode Asuka is indeed every bit as terrifying as Beast Mode Mari. Really hoping we see a simultaneous Dual Beast Mode in 4.0.

The fact that Asuka's covered eye is glowing blue is rather worrying, to say the least.

Technically though isn't Asuka's natural eye colour blue anyways? I don't think it means she's an angel or angel infected....

[driftking18594]

That said, I expect that whatever the problem is, she's got it under control; fourteen years have passed since the Bardiel incident, after all.

True, it is highly likely that if she ever went berserk due to Bardiel's contamination, it would have been between 2015 and 2029, and it would be likely that she would not have survived.

[TheFriskyIan]

oh so what you mean is....she wont be an enemy or a full on 11th angel or something like that. she just has a bit of its dna

There's still a possibility that she could be an Angel enemy. Remember, we have no idea what we're going into with FINAL, and I honestly don't know how many real Angels are left to destroy after we learned the whole Key of Nebewhatever creates artificial ones. The fact that she has some sort of possible Angel DNA inside her could spell out a bad end for Asuka, but we'll have to wait and see cause I would rather not jump to conclusions.

[Chuckman]

I would not surprise me if Asuka is the final enemy, but Shinji doesn't kill her, but finds some kind of middle path or proper solution. I don't expect it, because it would be trading on their relationship in the series rather than in the movies for the sake of the tension and the resolution, and because Shinji is not allowed to win.

Unless, in a stunning reversal, he is allowed to win.

[esselfortium]

Given what we know so far, I don't think being a lilim/angel hybrid is a death sentence here like it probably would be in NGE. Consider the difference between Kaworu's original death (no self-control, pulled inexplicably towards Lilith) and his Q death (voluntary self-sacrifice after taking on Shinji's burden).

Based on the pattern established so far, if Asuka dies in Final, it's probably going to be Shinji's fault somehow.

[TheFriskyIan]

Based on the pattern established so far, if Asuka dies in Final, it's probably going to be Shinji's fault somehow.

Well of course it would. It would give Asuka one last chance to call him an idiot sympathetically.

[Brainman]

Well honestly, If Asuka had a dormant angel living in her head, why didn't it come out during the whole 4th Impact fiasco at the end of the movie? If her infection was waiting for an opportunity to activate and wipe out humanity for 14 years, it kind of missed it's Big Chance.

I don't buy it. I get the impression that whatever is under the patch is just another thing Asuka had to adapt to in addition to not aging. Just another thing to deal with.

And as far as S/A, nah, forget it. This is really the best outcome for Asuka when you think about it. She's left him behind (but won't let him lay and die). Why would she be holding a torch for the guy after so long? I'm sure whatever hang ups she had about it were put to rest long ago, and she can concentrate on what's important. And that's a good change of pace. She's an Asuka who's grown into herself. Now she's his babysitter. Mari is her only real peer, and I'd like to see that relationship explored in more detail.

Please, please, let there be a spin off series about their time skip adventures.

[Merior]

Well honestly, If Asuka had a dormant angel living in her head, why didn't it come out during the whole 4th Impact fiasco at the end of the movie? If her infection was waiting for an opportunity to activate and wipe out humanity for 14 years, it kind of missed it's Big Chance.

It may be something that she's simply been able to suppress/control, that depends on her state of mind more than the state of the world around her. That would actually explain why it starts glowing when she goes in beast mode (losing control of herself to a degree). She could have a psychological breakdown causing her to release the angel(?) in the next movie.

as far as S/A, nah, forget it. This is really the best outcome for Asuka when you think about it. She's left him behind (but won't let him lay and die). Why would she be holding a torch for the guy after so long? I'm sure whatever hang ups she had about it were put to rest long ago, and she can concentrate on what's important. And that's a good change of pace. She's an Asuka who's grown into herself. Now she's his babysitter. Mari is her only real peer, and I'd like to see that relationship explored in more detail.

Considering Rebuild trend of focusing on the relationship between Shinji and a different "main" character from the tv series (Shinji-Misato/Shinji-Rei/Shinji-Kaworu) in each movie and the fact that we still don't know what's behind Asuka's eye(patch), the fourth will probably focus on Asuka and Shinji relationship, with her eye playing a plot relevant role. I do agree that it probably won't be anything romantic, but still, when you think about it, if u are stuck in a 14 year old body, your only chance to have a "normal" romantic relationship would be with someone in the same situation (i'm assuming Shinji is also going to remain 14 physically, not really sure about that). I wouldn't write off that possibility completely.

[Brainman]

She could have a psychological breakdown causing her to release the angel(?) in the next movie.

Yeah, see though I don't know what would actually cause that to happen. She forfeited her own Eva and self destructed it in this movie. In the original, she would rather have died than give up her path to piloting. It seems like in this version, she's given up a lot of the things she's used as emotional crutches in the 14 years since we've seen her.

So I don't necessarily know what would cause her to lose her cool now after what everyone has been through.