How is the song Ode to Joy related to Kaoru Nagisa? When we first see him he is humming it out loud, then later when Shinji is waiting for him before they go to the shower together you hear the song again. Lastly when Kaoru takes over Unit 02 and heads towards Lillith the song is played again.
What does it mean?
Kaoru Nagisa and Ode to Joy
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~Ill have to agree with hex its about reaching the highest state of inlightentment the peak of your exsistance. I think the reason they used it is because it also to me syboliss brotherhood the under standing of humans as a whole
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Re: Kaoru Nagisa and Ode to Joy
Gilgamesh wrote:...then later when Shinji is waiting for him before they go to the shower together you hear the song again.
Isn't the song coming from Shinji's casette player that time?
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Re: Kaoru Nagisa and Ode to Joy
Dave wrote:Gilgamesh wrote:...then later when Shinji is waiting for him before they go to the shower together you hear the song again.
Isn't the song coming from Shinji's casette player that time?
Yes, as strange as that seems, it's true. I'm watching episode 24 right now.
Dave wrote:How does it seem strange? Shinji meets Kaworu and hears him humming ode to joy; Shinji likes Kaworu and Kaworu says that he likes Ode to Joy (sort of), so Shinji goes out and gets a tape of it.
That was actually Manga Entertainment's doing. He was originally listening to some generic J-pop song.
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Dave wrote:How does it seem strange? Shinji meets Kaworu and hears him humming ode to joy; Shinji likes Kaworu and Kaworu says that he likes Ode to Joy (sort of), so Shinji goes out and gets a tape of it.
Huh, well I guess I never really thought of it that way. I was just thinking along the lines of, "Shinji doesn't seem like the kind of kid who would be into classical music." But that does make sense.
Phaze wrote:Dave wrote:How does it seem strange? Shinji meets Kaworu and hears him humming ode to joy; Shinji likes Kaworu and Kaworu says that he likes Ode to Joy (sort of), so Shinji goes out and gets a tape of it.
That was actually Manga Entertainment's doing. He was originally listening to some generic J-pop song.
What?!? Please elaborate before the delusions take over once again!
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I don't think that "Tabris" is mentioned in the series itself, but it comes up in the lists of Angels from official sources. In the manga, however, Keel directly addresses Kaworu as 'Tabris'...advent_child wrote:Shin-seiki wrote:Freedom is the main theme of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, and Kaworu is Tabris, the Angel of Free Will.
Btw i have some time to watch Eva-my pc cd player is fucked up-is somewhere on the episode 24 the name "Tabris"?Idon't remember..but i guess it means Angel of free will right?
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I just checked that scene out on Renewal vol. 7; Shinji is, in fact listening to the Fourth Movement of Beethoven's 9th (Ode to Joy) on his tape player. Also, ADV released the TV episodes, not Manga...Phaze wrote:Dave wrote:How does it seem strange? Shinji meets Kaworu and hears him humming ode to joy; Shinji likes Kaworu and Kaworu says that he likes Ode to Joy (sort of), so Shinji goes out and gets a tape of it.
That was actually Manga Entertainment's doing. He was originally listening to some generic J-pop song.
Ah, wrong scene, I was referring to a certain moment in Death and Rebirth.
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Geez, you people are dense!
The simple answer is...Kaworu likes milk!
I mean, it's obvious! He was humming the "Drink milk, love life" jingle, which only sounds like "Ode to Joy".
Kaworu: *sitting on debris near the crater lake*
Drink milk, love life,
taste the freshness,
gives you more life en-ner-gy,
drink milk, love life,
drink milk, love life,
drink milk, love life,
driiiiink milk.
*Pauses*
I think that song is the high point of the Lilim culture, don't you agree?
Shinji:...
...no!
Geez, you people are dense!
The simple answer is...Kaworu likes milk!
I mean, it's obvious! He was humming the "Drink milk, love life" jingle, which only sounds like "Ode to Joy".
Kaworu: *sitting on debris near the crater lake*
Drink milk, love life,
taste the freshness,
gives you more life en-ner-gy,
drink milk, love life,
drink milk, love life,
drink milk, love life,
driiiiink milk.
*Pauses*
I think that song is the high point of the Lilim culture, don't you agree?
Shinji:...
...no!
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