can someone explain why this is so controversial?

[risu]

I've watched all the episodes and movies and I noticed the religeouse symbols and understand the story for the most part(i think) but why is it considered so controversial?

[BobBQ]

Lots of things, mostly depending on who is doing the complaining.

For a start, it is generally considered bad form to kill off all your characters at the end.

[Anonymous_Evafan]

For a start, it is generally considered bad form to kill off all your characters at the end.

Who died?

[risu]

For a start, it is generally considered bad form to kill off all your characters at the end.

Who died?

everyone sorta, kinda, i guess, well Shinji and Asuka come back, and everyone else supposable does?

[Anonymous_Evafan]

everyone sorta, kinda, i guess,

Shifting into another form of existence is not death.

Rei:
Anyone can return to human form as long as they can imagine themselves in their own heart.

IBUKI:
We can surmise that Shinji's body lost its ego border,
and he's floating in the entry plug in quantum form.

Misato:
In other words, Shinji has shifted into a form we can't see?

IBUKI:
Yes, the composition of the LCL inside the plug has chemically altered
into something very similar to the sea water of primitive Earth.

Or was Shinji dead there too?

and everyone else supposable does?

Cronicles would seem to indicate a large portion of Lilim returned and rebuilt after 3I.

[risu]

back on to my question?

[Anonymous_Evafan]

Because stupid people here Angels and say ZOMG they're fighting a war against God. Then there's the fact that no one can completely agree on NGE.

[NAveryW]

I had always assumed it was because of the two endings.

EoTV: Controversial because it does away with all the plot and focuses instead purely on the psychology of the characters

EoE: Extremely violent and disturbing. Even though some may say the characters weren't "dead", they were arguably killed for their souls to be released. Thinking of them as not being dead is like thinking that people who are in heaven/hell are not dead. Which I suppose some people may think. I'm agnostic so I don't really know how I'd feel about the situation. But yes, it's meant to be a very psychologically disturbing movie.

[KingSpider]

Also, EoE being mindrape, and the series having two endings that make little sense don't help.

[Anonymous_Evafan]

EoE: Extremely violent and disturbing. Even though some may say the characters weren't "dead", they were arguably killed for their souls to be released. Thinking of them as not being dead is like thinking that people who are in heaven/hell are not dead. Which I suppose some people may think. I'm agnostic so I don't really know how I'd feel about the situation. But yes, it's meant to be a very psychologically disturbing movie.

Call me simplistic but if you can restore your physical body then you're not dead. Death is permanent.

Shinji:
Have I died?

Rei:
No, everything has just been joined into one.
This is the world you have been hoping for... your world.

[The Eva Monkey]

Why? Does it need to be stated that Evangelion was an evening hour kids show? Do I also have to point out that ending of TV series just pissed people off to no end, and then it was supplemented with a movie that put people through an emotional meat grinder? Seems pretty obvious to me.

[MaggotMaster]

Call me simplistic but if you can restore your physical body then you're not dead. Death is permanent.

You know though, SEELE themselves call it death, it technically isn't but the process was at least intended to be permanent.

[NAveryW]

Maggot Master, why do you have a giant penis for a sig? Do you WANT to be banned?!

[MaggotMaster]

Maggot Master, why do you have a giant penis for a sig? Do you WANT to be banned?!

lol.

[Reichu]

You know though, SEELE themselves call it death, it technically isn't but the process was at least intended to be permanent.

Incidentally, in the script, when Seele say "blah blah blah united in death" towards the beginning of #25', there are quotes around 'death' (like so: 『死』).

[BobBQ]

Call me simplistic but if you can restore your physical body then you're not dead. Death is permanent.

They may not have been permanently dead, totally dead or spiritually dead, but they were clinically dead, legally dead and narratively dead.

It's that last one that really counts.

[zephyr72]

why is it considered so controversial?

Because it's incredible...incredible stuff is sometimes controversial. Just look at Elfen Lied. Heck, there are plenty of amazing games out there that are controversial. (I'm trying to think of a good example of a movie, if anyone has any suggestions.

Personally, i think it might be because of some of the sexual tension involving fourteen year old kids (though that age is full of sexual tension). Religious references...I'm sure some people felt it insulted their religion. Maybe it was just because it was hard to understand.

[Sailor Star Dust]

I thought I mentioned my views on this on another theard of the same topic, but I always thought it was because of not knowing wheather or not EoTV and EoE is concurrent or not?

That and the psychological mind-fucks that both the series ED and EoE have probably piss people off... I guess people don't like the fact they have to find their own answers (Ha!) instead of everything being spoon-fed to them.

Though it's somewhat good to know the death threats were in fact meant for Death & Rebirth and NOT EoTV as stupid Leaky states. :roll:


@ the post above me:

GAINAX themseleves stated the Judo-Christian reilgious symbols were just meant to look cool (Pointless Reilgious Symbolism! TM) and would have reconsidered using those had they know it would have been a hit internationally.

[flatulant]

Though it's somewhat good to know the death threats were in fact meant for Death & Rebirth and NOT EoTV as stupid Leaky states. :roll:

You can fix Wikipedia, you know.

P.S. Why do you keep on calling it Leaky?

[Sailor Star Dust]

Because nearly everyone else here does and because it's not a trustworthy source of info no matter how much you fix it.