Final Fantasy series

[The Triforce Fighter]

Play the old games then?

lol don't worry I will = P But I do think they might've been better off not calling it FF13 but either making it a new series all together or make it a spin off. Its just that from what I've read they where aiming for a different audience with this. Or maybe I am just bad at accepting change X D

[Allemann]

On this forum, people should prefer the Megami Tensei series.

[NemZ]

^ I think you meant to say Xenogears.

Semi-mystical mechas, loldeep plot, psychological themes, meaningless religious overtones, body-jumping goddess figures, parental issues, spaceborn progenitor race, 'path to god' evil master plan by faceless old guys, backstabbing upstart who works for them, and it even has obvious budget problems at the end.

[ZapX]

I think we can all agree that Xenogears is 9001 times better than any of the FF series. Well, excluding 6.

[WonderBug]

Its just that from what I've read they where aiming for a different audience with this. Or maybe I am just bad at accepting change X D

I kind of like how they're screwing around with it. "Tried and true" is okay, but I like to see that they're experimenting with certain elements, if only a little. I liked XII for that same reason. Nostalgia fests are fun too, which is why I play IX like, once a year.

[The Bastard King]

I think we can all agree that Xenogears is 9001 times better than any of the FF series. Well, excluding 6.

As long as you apply the Japanese voice/cutscene patch, then yeah, totally.

[BrikHaus]

On this forum, people should prefer the Megami Tensei series.

Persona 3 certainly has some head-shooting goodness.

But seriously, Final Fantasy is old and tired. They need to give it a rest.

[Sachi]

But seriously, Final Fantasy is old and tired. They need to give it a rest.

I agree with this, to a extent. They've been trying to keep up with the times by repeatedly revolutionizing their RPG system, and bringing something new to the genre, but they sometimes have complete misses. The Sphere Grid of X would have been better if it weren't so linear at first (and I'm curious as to how XIII's system has changed this). The Gambits of XII would have been better if they didn't make Magicks a pain in the ass to use. I really enjoyed the way characters learned abilities in IX, and I liked being able to switch out characters in the middle of battles like in X and XII. I think they may have been onto something with the real time action, like with Dirge of Cerberus and XII, but if they combined it more with the battle system of latest Star Ocean games, I think it could make the battle system a lot more exciting. The characters need to be more bold and stand-alone, such as with the older games, because I hated how dull, and unmemorable the characters of XII were.

Simply, FF needs to return to its roots, as well as pay more attention to what other RPGs are doing good.

[psychosis090]

Have any of you guys seen Noah Antwiler's in-depth review (or rather complete verbal and visual destruction) of Final Fantasy VIII? Hilarious to the very end. And so very, very true:

http://spoonyexperiment.com/2007/04/04/final-fantasy-viii-review-part-1/

The only thing he hates worse than VIII is X...which he has currently begun to tackle:

http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/03/11/it-begins-again/

And that's only the first installment. How long is he gonna last, folks?

Somehow, I get the feeling he won't much care for XIII, either. What with the characters in that one...

[Sepulcural Voice]

I adore Spoony's reviews myself. I've never quite agreed with his overall assessment of FF8, but i've always thought they're some of the funniest shit around that i've seen from a review of that style.

Never played FFX but I'm really digging that review so far... hopefully he'll update with a new one soon.

[WonderBug]

I just took a look at those videos. They're hilarious! I look forward to what he says about X. It was my first FF, but I never liked it. Goodness knows what prompted me to play the other titles afterward.

Regarding XIII, I've totally changed my mind about Hope. Everyone's pretty much gotten better as the game's progressed. Except Vanille.

[psychosis090]

Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention this.

By about Part 5 or thereabouts, Spoony takes a dig at NGE (while possibly mispronouncing it intentionally, but whatever). This is during a quick retrospective on FFVII, where he discusses the negative impact it had not only on later installments in the series it but on gaming culture at large. Yep, you guessed it: the massive influx of mentally unstable anime fans. Specifically (in his words), 'those who thought Neon Genesis Evangelion was really deep.'

Please don't boycott his review or all the other material he's produced over the years based solely on this one quip. I actually forgot it was in there, myself. Believe me, this guy knows his stuff, and he's entitled to his own opinion. In fact, for all we know, he was probably referring to those fans who genuinely thought that NGE was trying to convey religious meaning (it wasn't) and other ill-conceived, crackpot ideas. Hell, there are a lot of things that piss me off about the show (see the laff riot that was the 'fanservice is evil' thread, featuring our mutual friend, J. Faulkner).

Just doing this as a forewarning to some of the more reactionary fans on this site, and also to cover my own ass as well. I'm not trolling, is all.

Anyway, back to the main event.

[WonderBug]

Can't say that it bothered me. You have to laugh at yourself once in a while, right?

[psychosis090]

Damn straight.

[The Triforce Fighter]

On this forum, people should prefer the Megami Tensei series.

Another JRPG series would try out if only I could track the newest Persona game down for the PS2.

[BrikHaus]

Another JRPG series would try out if only I could track the newest Persona game down for the PS2.

Try Amazon, it's there.

[supershinjiasukashipper]

Suddenly I miss my old PS2.

[The Triforce Fighter]

[quote="BrikHaus#344471"]Try Amazon, it's there.[/q]

Whoa, so they are. 3 AND 4. They both cost the Earth last time I checked on Play. Should I get both or just 4? (Sorry slightly off topic = P)

[BrikHaus]

If you are going to get Persona 3, get Persona 3 FES version. It's got about 30 more hours of gameplay and resolves the storyline better.

[Hexon.Arq]

I DL'd VII and VIII off of PSN about half a year ago, and haven't finished either. Plus I've still got XII on the back burner, and to tell the truth I'm not even tempted to shell out sixty bones for XIII. The only one that even really impressed me was X, if only because it was the first one I played.

And yes, SMT:Persona series is awesome. It took me half a year to beat the third one, and I'm still on 4.