What do you want to see in Q and Final?

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Postby Sun Stealer » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:04 pm

View Original PostLucretius wrote:But the plot so far seems to be headed towards a Nia ending done to the tune of Oedipus Rex, which probably means a single Shinji. Who becomes a hobo.


Which ties into my very real fear that Anno will simply recycle the plot of TTGL with a little bit of EoE mixed in.
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Postby Lucretius » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:11 pm

Asuka was actually killed off in 2.0, and the eyepatch scene comes from a hallucination sequence where Asuka, retroactively dubbed "bro," will tell Shinji to kick reason to the curb.
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Postby Clover » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:17 pm

View Original PostLucretius wrote:Asuka was actually killed off in 3.0, and the eyepatch scene comes from a hallucination sequence where Asuka, retroactively dubbed "bro," will tell Shinji to kick reason to the curb.

But she's not dead lol

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Postby Mr. Tines » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:15 am

View Original PostLucretius wrote:But the plot so far seems to be headed towards a Nia ending done to the tune of Oedipus Rex, which probably means a single Shinji. Who becomes a hobo.
I called that when the movie came out.
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Postby BeoX2 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:06 am

I just hope that Asuka loses that damn eyepatch. I don't wanna have to call her "Cap'n Asuka Langley Shikinami" like she's Redbeard or something.
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Postby oOoOoOo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:44 am

I wouldn't be surprised if she wears the eye-patch for all of five seconds before it gets accidentally torn off by Shinji, and then Asuka's crazy alien eye tries to merge with him and they finally have indisputable onscreen sex.

In all seriousness, I have a feeling the eye-patch will be short lived. There's going to be something weird with her eye. Maybe she'll be able to see the barriers between people or something. I'm assuming it isn't just because Anno-san has a pirate fetish.
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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:38 am

The eye-patch is required for the following dramatic moment to work:

Do to various circumstances, Shinji lapses into a state of catatonia/psychosis/emo/constipation, and Asuka decides to use some applied psychology: namely, feeding the back of her pimphand to Shinji's face, as demonstrated here.

I don't even know why, but i'm dying to see something like that happen.

And what's wrong with pirate fetish?
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:25 am

I dunno


maybe its just me, but eyepatch =/= pirate
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Postby esselfortium » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:50 am

Yeah, honestly the whole "lol Pirate Asuka! omg" thing that's for some reason shown up in the fandom seems kind of dumb. I get it, okay, she has an eyepatch. I don't know what some people find appealing about no longer having a fully functioning anatomy, but that's for them to work out, I suppose.

Can we have Pegleg Toji, too?

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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:56 am

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:Yeah, honestly the whole "lol Pirate Asuka! omg" thing that's for some reason shown up in the fandom seems kind of dumb. I get it, okay, she has an eyepatch. I don't know what some people find appealing about no longer having a fully functioning anatomy, but that's for them to work out, I suppose.

Can we have Pegleg Toji, too?


I guess it more has to do with that eyepatches look cool to wear


Pegleg Toji, on the other hand, is dumb just on an aesthetic level. Peglegs don't have that "wow" effect eyepatches have...unless you have a prosthetic leg/assault rifle*


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Postby AngelNo13Bardiel » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:21 pm

View Original PostGasmaskAvenger wrote:Peglegs don't have that "wow" effect eyepatches have...unless you have a prosthetic leg/assault rifle*


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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:28 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:Yeah, honestly the whole "lol Pirate Asuka! omg" thing that's for some reason shown up in the fandom seems kind of dumb. I get it, okay, she has an eyepatch. I don't know what some people find appealing about no longer having a fully functioning anatomy, but that's for them to work out, I suppose.

Personally, i push the pirate angle purely because i think the aforelinkedto (neologism?) Captain Harlock is a pretty cool guy.

Also, i see something of an homage, or at least a reference on the creators part, too. Having an eye-patch and being impossibly skinny in and of themselves wouldn't be enough, but when you add in the captain rank and the fact that Harlock was revealed to be of German ancestry in the movie Arcadia Of My Youth which is not in continuity with any of the other Harlock works, but whatever, thing start to look deliberate.
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:30 pm

View Original PostAngelNo13Bardiel wrote:Planet Terror.

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wrong movie :smirk:

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Postby AngelNo13Bardiel » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:33 pm

Oh...nevermind then. That's the only instance of that I could think of.
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Postby Lucretius » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:57 pm

View Original PostSaltyJoe wrote:as demonstrated here.

I don't even know why, but i'm dying to see something like that happen.


Given the general tenor of 2.0, I think this scene would fit too.

If 3.0 is just Asuka Kamina-punching douche!Shinji for 90 minutes, I will squee like a schoolgirl.

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Postby oOoOoOo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:41 pm

It is funny you mention that Lucretius-kun because that's what I was daydreaming about during breakfast this morning. I'm kind of hoping Asuka steals the show. I get that this is supposed to be shonen and all, but I'd really like to see a female protagonist. These days whenever I'm experiencing any sort of Evaverse stuff, I tend to identify most with Misato and Asuka, so I'm always very happy when they get their moments.

MY BEAUTIFUL DREAM: Shinji acting as Asuka's sidekick.

Like, to see Asuka and Shinji working as a team, that would be quite satisfying. The first time around those two were so dysfunctional, but it'd be heartwarming to see them be badass together. Since I'm always harping about gender roles, it'd be nice to see Shinji acting as Asuka's sidekick. I think Shinji does well in a support role.

To be honest... I think Shinji likes supporting others. He doesn't want to be the shonen protagonist. I think both Asuka and Shinji would be happy in such a situation.

And I think eye-patches in general are supposed to say "this person is badass" as opposed to "this person is hunting for sunken Spanish galleons". And Asuka is pretty badass.
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Postby carla » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:19 pm

it's not the eyepatch, it's the pirate undertones. apparently everybody loves pirates nowadays. they're like vampires, but [s]less sparkly[/s] played by johnny depp, which makes them better. i don't really get it myself. [s]now ninjas, i'd totally go for ninja!Asuka.[/s]

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oh my god, my brain just flashed me a kick-ass-type mental image where Asuka totally channels hit-girl and Shinji gets dragged around with her, wearing a fugly, green, spandex superhero-wannabe costume, as they plot to take down local crime bosses-- aka SEELE and gendo.

it was awesome. :thumbsup:
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Postby AngelNo13Bardiel » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:47 pm

View Original Postcarla wrote:oh my god, my brain just flashed me a kick-ass-type mental image where Asuka totally channels hit-girl and Shinji gets dragged around with her, wearing a fugly, green, spandex superhero-wannabe costume, as they plot to take down local crime bosses-- aka SEELE and gendo.

it was awesome. :thumbsup:


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Postby Sun Stealer » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:07 pm

View Original PostBeoX2 wrote:I just hope that Asuka loses that damn eyepatch. I don't wanna have to call her "Cap'n Asuka Langley Shikinami" like she's Redbeard or something.


Even worse news, I hear they've got Hans Zimmer for Q, and he will be recycling his songs just like Shiro Sagisu. Here is Asuka's theme

Also, Aoba should have a parrot.

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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:29 pm

Even worse news, I hear they've got Hans Zimmer for Q, and he will be recycling his songs just like Shiro Sagisu. Here is Asuka's theme

Also, Aoba should have a parrot.

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