Eva-05 and -06 Designs & Speculation

[NemZ]

Take a look at the Tachikomas. They have wheels on on four of their legs and when not needed they retract them.

Tachikomas don't retract the wheels. They occasionally split in three to become little footpads, but they never retract.

I don't know what's what with new transformers, but back in the day the toys typically had any wheels just stay right where they were. It was rather uncommon that they actually got shifted away somewhere, and even then they usually just turned around a single joint under the hood to allow an arm to flip out of that space, as in the various pallet swaps of Prowl.

[Electric Sachiel]

Take a look at the Tachikomas. They have wheels on on four of their legs and when not needed they retract them.

Tachikomas don't retract the wheels. They occasionally split in three to become little footpads, but they never retract.

Actually they do retract slightly. When walking in the office areas or indoors they have their wheels retracted. When they do need to roll they extend them out of their legs. Its more noticeable in the first season of Stand Alone Complex.

This explanation is void in 2nd Gig since they have the footpads by that point.......

[Reichu]

What is guarding the giant on the moon?

It's on the Moon, mind.

I still have problems with this weird and impractical design of the EVAcar.

Truly, beyond any rhyme or reason. Next time someone parrots the poppycock that "Rebuild is intentionally designed to make more sense", just point them to Eva-05.

Perhaps "the seal" is a new underground discovery away from NERV base, and they had to send a half-assed EVA to guard it.

I stand by the conviction that it would take far more energy to mutilate an Eva into a four-legged Trolleykoma with harpoon arms than it would to just grow it, perform some unpleasant surgery and cybernetic implantations upon the spine/thoracic cavity/core, and slap some "armor" on.

[Alaska Slim]

I stand by the conviction that it would take far more energy to mutilate an Eva into a four-legged Trolleykoma with harpoon arms than it would to just grow it, perform some unpleasant surgery and cybernetic implantations upon the spine/thoracic cavity/core, and slap some "armor" on.

Not if it's built from a reject body for Unit-00, something the term "provisional" seems to imply, a slapped together unit of whatever was on hand, like the Frankenstein ships of the Dominion war in Star Trek.

No no, I'll say it: NERD!

[Reichu]

Not if it's built from a reject body for Unit-00, something the term "provisional" seems to imply, a slapped together unit of whatever was on hand

Admittedly, my rants are based on certain biologically-grounded preconceptions which may not be the case at all. My mind "likes" the idea that the Evas are "constructed" embryologically, which is the developmental method Adam and her progeny seem to like -- and, well, we know what the Evas are (at least... most of them). Of course, this clashes with the weird images we're provided of disembodied spinal columns and arms and such, which lead some to think, "They must grow a bunch of parts and slap the Evas together". But IMO it makes more sense to surmise we're seeing a combination of CNSes generated for experimental purposes and more complete Evas that were systematically butchered for study after they "failed their exams".

If the above has nothing to do with what anybody had been implying, then my apologies...

[Ingraman]

Watching the design of 05, i'm almost convinced that the unit is substantially a mecha built around an EVA core, that is needed to eliminate AT-fields. The different control system (the helmet and the tubes) are possibly connected with the fact that the EVA body is not completely developed.

[THE Hal E. Burton 9000]

sorry, I CAN'T resist
http://www.evamonkey.com/zugzwang/zugzwang_07.png

[Alaska Slim]

Of course, this clashes with the weird images we're provided of disembodied spinal columns and arms and such, which lead some to think, "They must grow a bunch of parts and slap the Evas together". But IMO it makes more sense to surmise we're seeing a combination of CNSes generated for experimental purposes and more complete Evas that were systematically butchered for study after they "failed their exams".

Not mention the Evas themselves lost their limbs several times over the course series, sometimes in ways that made it unlikley they were just "re-attached".

sorry, I CAN'T resist
http://www.evamonkey.com/zugzwang/zugzwang_07.png

Ah yes, my reputation is alive and well... sorry.

[Destinii Haruya]

Being an Eva, of course, it might well be able to morph its hands in and out of drill mode. The tissue that Evas are made of can obviously morph (extremely limitedly), so..?

I, myself, have theories that 05 doesn't need its pilot to have any special affinity, thusly they could use anyone as its pilot, not just those born just after Second Impact. This, of course, fails, which explains how freaked-out the pilot looks.

[Reichu]

Not mention the Evas themselves lost their limbs several times over the course series, sometimes in ways that made it unlikley they were just "re-attached".

We see them reattaching Eva-02's arms and head while chanting a bunch of cellular gobbledygook.

"Can you please stop doing that?" (I must insist.)

Being an Eva, of course, it might well be able to morph its hands in and out of drill mode.

Eva-05 seems to be able to launch the things, even. I dunno, if Eva-05's appendages weren't screaming "mecha!!!!", morphing might be plausible, but...

I, myself, have theories that 05 doesn't need its pilot to have any special affinity, thusly they could use anyone as its pilot

If it were that easy, Eva probably wouldn't bother with the whole "motherless children" (or, alternatively, "ancient aliens masquerading as teenagers" or "batshit insane digitized personalities based on said aliens") angle.

not just those born just after Second Impact.

You sure that's not just coincidence...?

This, of course, fails, which explains how freaked-out the pilot looks.

"Freaked out", or just DYNAMIC SHOT? Exaggerated turning and shouting in a static cockpit where the pilot really doesn't move that much are tried and true methods of adding visual pep, after all.

[Destinii Haruya]

not just those born just after Second Impact.

You sure that's not just coincidence...?

Ritsuko hints several times to it being some trace in kids born just after 2I, although she never explicitly states it. There's significant evidence to support this- how come only Shinji's class at the school were set up as pilot candidates? It seems the closer to 2I you were born, the better synch ratio you'd have- wild guess, that one. Anyone got the Eva characters' birthdays to check?

[Oedipusfoot]

How come only Shinji's class at the school were set up as pilot candidates? It seems the closer to 2I you were born, the better synch ratio you'd have- wild guess, that one. Anyone got the Eva characters' birthdays to check?

Stat ratio depends on a person's subconscious connection to the Eva's core. I doubt it would have to do with when you were born.

Couldn't all the possible candidates just be placed in the same home room? Easy filin'.

[master_lloyd]

I've always found it strange that all the candidates were placed in the same classroom together, I mean all it would take is one angel to appear and laser-cross-explosion that school and BOOM no more eva pilots.

Eggs in one basket much?

Anyway I'm beginning to think the whole Eva-05 design actually makes sense. Think about it - wheels are faster than legs, more weapons (inbuilt for ease of use), plus extra long lance arms to pierce straight through the AT field and into the core. No fuss no muss.

[Ornette]

Ritsuko hints several times to it being some trace in kids born just after 2I, although she never explicitly states it. There's significant evidence to support this- how come only Shinji's class at the school were set up as pilot candidates? It seems the closer to 2I you were born, the better synch ratio you'd have- wild guess, that one. Anyone got the Eva characters' birthdays to check?

This is the only place where Ritsuko refers to it in the show:

Misato (OFF):
He's only fourteen years old.
It seems so cruel, making him bear the burden of mankind's destiny.

RITSUKO (OFF):
But we have no choice but to entrust the piloting
of the Evas to fourteen year olds.

No choice -> entrusting the evas to the pilots, not that they have to be 14 years old. This is where the "coincidence" part comes in.

All the pilots have birthdates after 2I with the exception of Kaworu, who was born on 2I. Seeing as the synch rates change throughout the show (the ranking), I doubt it has to do with when they're born.

I don't think there's a thread discussing this (maybe bits in the ANF archive), but if you want to continue you should probably start one in the Discussion forum.

[jenova7]

perhaps unit-05 could act as a guard within the main shaft of terminal dogma

[UrsusArctos]

Having an Eva to guard those shafts and tunnels isn't a bad idea, but is it worth making an Eva so specialized that it can only operate within that area? Unless those harpoons are really powerful close-quarters weapons (And so special that they can't be used by a normal Eva), I'd rather have a more versatile Evangelion.

(Hmm...what if Zer gets poked in the eyes by those harpoons?)

[Reichu]

In the poster, Eva-05's listing comes directly after "Bethania Base", so odds are Eva-05 is going to be there and not at Nerv HQ.

[Reichu]

I guess I'll post this here, too.

SPINZAKU KICK!!!! (I'm probably doing that wrong.) Crappy animation is crappy, but all we have at the moment.



So this doesn't change Eva-05's status as a quadruple-amputee, but at least we can say with some confidence now that she at least has things that function as arms. Even if they look like... yeah. I'm still not completely certain as to how the arms attach (some frames are a bit confusing). I guess the big lance-things are "add-ons"?

I don't see any obvious sign of wheels here. The leg profile actually looks a bit different than what we can ascertain from this:





...namely in terms of the lower leg. Are the "barrels" around the lower legs a formation taken by the wheel bases when Eva-05 is "off the track"? They seem a bit cumbersome (though they look like they would hurt if you got hit by them).

I also wonder what those objects with the red stripes are.

[Electric Sachiel]

I guess I'll post this here, too.

SPINZAKU KICK!!!! (I'm probably doing that wrong.) Crappy animation is crappy, but all we have at the moment.



I don't see any obvious sign of wheels here. The leg profile actually looks a bit different than what we can ascertain from this

Really? On closer inspection rather than passing it off as something being thrown (ie: spear or drill from Eva Unit 05), i think the moving object that produces that blur motion is actually Eva Unit 05's wheels. Given that the object is round and passes by the screen TWICE, i think it might mean that Eva Unit 05 can swivel its legs base

360 degrees.

If you look closely the moving objects in that GIF do appear to be not too far from wheels or rollers from your typical office chair.

I know it doesn't help that the photos of the figure don't show this and were stuck with a lousy GIF and footage from the trailer, but I honestly think the wheel thing is what you see causing that blurring motion.

[Reichu]

Really? On closer inspection rather than passing it off as something being thrown (ie: spear or drill from Eva Unit 05) (snip)

Just FYI, you're not actually stating anything that conflicts with what's in my post... Not that I'm aware anyway...... (I kind of get this feeling that your reply was based entirely on the animated GIF.)