Evangelion 3.0+1.0 not yet in production?
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The filmmakers aren't making this to please you. They can take as long as they want. Also, the more Anno pisses off a certain set of people the more schadenfreude I get out of it.
Plus a lot of people can quit their whining. I mean it's not like there is a scarcity of geek friendly entertainment out there right now. There are thousands of other things the angry few can do to fill their time.
Plus a lot of people can quit their whining. I mean it's not like there is a scarcity of geek friendly entertainment out there right now. There are thousands of other things the angry few can do to fill their time.
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And We have the right of complain about what he want.
Doesn't mean the complaints make sense.
Actually that sound good for me, maybe other director can make a Better Movie that Anno (and tsurumaki), who knows?
That's just trolling. Why would somebody else do Eva? Like, in the middle of the series...
You are implying the Rebuilds suck. Well, nobody knows. Eva relies a lot on the ending, which doesn't exist. The films so far are objectively good though.
Please do not compare Rebuild Series with EOE, that kinda depressed me.
Yeah, you can't compare something that doesn't have an ending with an ending.
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kuribo-04 wrote:It's Anno himself who made studio khara possible, so I think he has the right to take as long as he wants.
Before the Japan Film Festival, I complained too. I thought Anno just didn't kow what to do in part 4 and was intentionally not talking about it.
Turns out he was really depressed. So the only other solution to be productive woud be to just put another guy in the director role and slap the Eva name on it, which would be cheap.
The last film will probably release in two years, maybe even less, it's not that much time.
Ok, but I also can say he is being very slow. It's a fact, this is not a debate about quality.
Talking about letting other guy direct the movie is manipulative. 4 years to make a not a movie, but an ending for an prestablished quatrilogy is not very usual. It's just that. And no, I'm not gonna buy Japan Film Festival as "See? They are doing other things"
The filmmakers aren't making this to please you. They can take as long as they want. Also, the more Anno pisses off a certain set of people the more schadenfreude I get out of it.
Plus a lot of people can quit their whining. I mean it's not like there is a scarcity of geek friendly entertainment out there right now. There are thousands of other things the angry few can do to fill their time.
And what's the meaning of that speech?? We're talking about time schedules. 10 years (at least) for 4 movies are not your usual time schedule, that's a fact. And please, try not to be so indulgent.
Do american "cool" people know that in Europe only alcoholics and homeless drink wine without food by their side???
I just hope that we'll at least get something from 3.0+1.0, an announcement through Khara or Anno himself and also a teaser or trailer. The best thing would be, that the movie comes out this year. Otherweise it gets a release then next year instead if we think on the increasing gap between the latest movies. They should better finish Evangelion for good so they can do something else. Evangelion might be one of Annos greatest achievements, Rebuild included, but also his heaviest burden.
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Doing 4 high-quality, hand-drawn , theatrical animated movies in the span of 10 years is actually insanely fast! 2D animation is the most time consuming medium imagineable short of maybe stop motion. 99% of the time the public isn't even made aware of an animated film's existence until it's well more than half way through production. Pixar, Dreamworks, Ghibli, Laika, etc - will never mention an upcoming project until the finish line is in sight which doesn't happen until very far along in production. I can promise you right now Pixar & all the other animation houses are hard at work on their 2021 releases. The Eva films have been at a disadvantage from the start with it being known it's gonng be four films from day one & they're making these one at a time.
Is 3.0+1.0 in production? Who knows. It's somewhere down the line obviously. Probably farther than we all think & secrecy is one of the joys animation has that live action doesn't. 3.0 got released without any surprise leaks - "Hello 14 year time gap" - so it's not hard to believe that the final film is much further along then we think.
Still, animation takes time. A lot of time. And it can't be compared to other examples as "Film X took 18 months, why does Film Y need 4 years!" It's a tough medium & it's a slow medium. One of patience. Whining that animation is taking too long is like complaining that the sun is too bright. It's really pointless.
The movie will get released when it's good & ready.
Is 3.0+1.0 in production? Who knows. It's somewhere down the line obviously. Probably farther than we all think & secrecy is one of the joys animation has that live action doesn't. 3.0 got released without any surprise leaks - "Hello 14 year time gap" - so it's not hard to believe that the final film is much further along then we think.
Still, animation takes time. A lot of time. And it can't be compared to other examples as "Film X took 18 months, why does Film Y need 4 years!" It's a tough medium & it's a slow medium. One of patience. Whining that animation is taking too long is like complaining that the sun is too bright. It's really pointless.
The movie will get released when it's good & ready.
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The movie will get released when it's good & ready.
The Last Part is very Subjective, We do not know if 3.0+1.0 is going to be good.
But yeah the best we can do is just wait, but Like I said before I really do not care about the final Movie, I am more interested in the Animator Expo (the best thing than Khara ever did in my Opinion).
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Talking about letting other guy direct the movie is manipulative.
I don't know what you mean. I used that to show that out of all the options, waiting seems to be the best.
And no, I'm not gonna buy Japan Film Festival as "See? They are doing other things"
I didn't mean the Animator Expo. During the Film Festival interviews revealed that Anno was really depressed. I don't want the guy to go crazy because of a film. He needs some time. He is a person that cares a lot about his project, and that can turn out bad sometimes.
From a positive POV, if they had made the last film directly, we wouldn't have Until you come to me.
So the total amount of khara produced Eva material is more now.
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All I can hope here is that Anno sorta knows how messy 3.0 was, and is doing his absolute best to make the best 4.0 that he can.
In which case I wish him best of luck, and fingers crossed he really taps into his soul for something mesmerizing and transcendent, and as a bonus, satisfying. We've lost Ghibli already, so... when Anno's done, I'd be very happy with a sendoff as good as Princess Kaguya.
In which case I wish him best of luck, and fingers crossed he really taps into his soul for something mesmerizing and transcendent, and as a bonus, satisfying. We've lost Ghibli already, so... when Anno's done, I'd be very happy with a sendoff as good as Princess Kaguya.
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Grub wrote:All I can hope here is that Anno sorta knows how messy 3.0 was, and is doing his absolute best to make the best 4.0 that he can.
In which case I wish him best of luck, and fingers crossed he really taps into his soul for something mesmerizing and transcendent, and as a bonus, satisfying. We've lost Ghibli already, so... when Anno's done, I'd be very happy with a sendoff as good as Princess Kaguya.
You spelt masterpiece wrong. Ok just joking, it’s a matter of opinion, and even though I’m a hardcore eva fan having watched it 2000 and not let go ever since, I’m not too attached to the original series, I think Q was brilliant, ambiance and plot-wise. Anno makes his characters like proper humans, as per always acting like a person would, avoiding obvious conversations that only serve to expose the plot to the audience.
That said, I completely trust his ideas and am waiting eagerly for FINAL, but don’t hold your breath, it’ll take a while.
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Grub wrote:All I can hope here is that Anno sorta knows how messy 3.0 was, and is doing his absolute best to make the best 4.0 that he can.
In which case I wish him best of luck, and fingers crossed he really taps into his soul for something mesmerizing and transcendent, and as a bonus, satisfying. We've lost Ghibli already, so... when Anno's done, I'd be very happy with a sendoff as good as Princess Kaguya.
To be honest I think than 2.0 was a lot more messy than 3.0, but do not get me wrong for me both Movies have a lot of good ideas but the execution fail to make those ideas work.
In this point I do not believe in the talent of Anno anymore, So in my case I am gonna be happy if Anno let down the Rebuild Series to do other things.
Rebuild is to NGE as Star Trek Into Darkness is to Wrath of Khan: Impressive in some aspects--mostly technical--but thematically not as rich as its predecessor.
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Actually, Rebuild is to NGE what The Ten Commandments (1956) is to The Ten Commandments (1923): A director revisits his own work and reimagines it with more experience and a grander vision.
(Not a “better” vision, or even a “more compelling” vision. Just a grander one. And that grandness shows itself immaculately in the more recent productions of each of the narrative works sited as an example.)
Now, Star Trek Into Darkness is to Wrath of Kahn what Godzilla (1998) is to Godzilla (1954): A director unrelated to the original in every way possible and who clearly doesn’t know what the fuss is all about comes in a ruins a franchise for everyone.
I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but-... well, it isn’t splitting hairs. That’s just how it actually factually is.
As for whether or not NTE executes its ideas well, that’s yet to be determined, as its ending is still unreleased. Even the original NGE sank or swam depending on its ending, which is in part why the fandom is split down the middle as to whether or not they prefer EoTV or EoE’s ending/version/perspective/ect. Some prefer EoTV because it finalized the execution of the ideas presented perfectly, and hate EoE because it ruing that execution. Others lived EoE for it’s finalization of the ideas of NGE, and hate EoTV for its execution. It’s all a mess and depends so greatly on whichever “note” you decide to end the series on, and on which interpretation you use to approach the series’ ending.
I expect NTE to be no different. Much of it will be so dependent on its ending that we’ll have countless discussions specifically about its ending, just like we’ve had for NGE’s various endings for decades (plural!) now.
(Not a “better” vision, or even a “more compelling” vision. Just a grander one. And that grandness shows itself immaculately in the more recent productions of each of the narrative works sited as an example.)
Now, Star Trek Into Darkness is to Wrath of Kahn what Godzilla (1998) is to Godzilla (1954): A director unrelated to the original in every way possible and who clearly doesn’t know what the fuss is all about comes in a ruins a franchise for everyone.
I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but-... well, it isn’t splitting hairs. That’s just how it actually factually is.
As for whether or not NTE executes its ideas well, that’s yet to be determined, as its ending is still unreleased. Even the original NGE sank or swam depending on its ending, which is in part why the fandom is split down the middle as to whether or not they prefer EoTV or EoE’s ending/version/perspective/ect. Some prefer EoTV because it finalized the execution of the ideas presented perfectly, and hate EoE because it ruing that execution. Others lived EoE for it’s finalization of the ideas of NGE, and hate EoTV for its execution. It’s all a mess and depends so greatly on whichever “note” you decide to end the series on, and on which interpretation you use to approach the series’ ending.
I expect NTE to be no different. Much of it will be so dependent on its ending that we’ll have countless discussions specifically about its ending, just like we’ve had for NGE’s various endings for decades (plural!) now.
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It's cool to see someone even more butthurt than I am over the complete about face in morals/quality that the star trek franchise has taken, especially with the Abrams versions.
That being said, the 7 year old in me nearly creamed his pants before he even knew what cream was while the Enterprise was getting blowed up. Still won't top the saucer landing sequence in Generations, though. That was some masterful shit.
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FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:As for whether or not NTE executes its ideas well, that’s yet to be determined, as its ending is still unreleased. Even the original NGE sank or swam depending on its ending, which is in part why the fandom is split down the middle as to whether or not they prefer EoTV or EoE’s ending/version/perspective/ect. Some prefer EoTV because it finalized the execution of the ideas presented perfectly, and hate EoE because it ruing that execution. Others lived EoE for it’s finalization of the ideas of NGE, and hate EoTV for its execution. It’s all a mess and depends so greatly on whichever “note” you decide to end the series on, how on which interpretation you use to approach the series’ ending.
I expect NTE to be no different. Much of it will be so dependent on its ending that we’ll have countless discussions specifically about its ending, just like we’ve had for NGE’s various endings for decades (plural!) now.
In my case I do not think the Ending could fix the problems with the execution of the ideas than I have with the Rebuild Series.
Mostly because those ideas need to work in their own movies.
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