Gendou's knowledge

[zephyr72]

We all know that the evas need souls and that eva-01 has yui's soul. Does this mean that gendou knew what was going to happen to her when she tested the eva. I looked through some threads, but couldn't find anything pertaining to this. Also, Naoko's line on how she had hoped the test would get rid of yui makes me think of sabotage, but i know that it was necessary for the evangelion project. Any thoughts?

[MaggotMaster]

I'm sure he didn't know it was going to happen.

Otherwise he wouldn't have been so desperate to get her back, he would have tried to convince her to not take part in the experiment if he had any idea of what was going to happen in the CE.

[Lujerker]

Hmmm... i think Gendou don't know nothing about .... why ??? well his final goal isn't " Be a God " .... his final goal is " be with yui forever "... and from his failed desperation (and fuyutsuji too) born " Rei "...

[zephyr72]

logically that is the case, but I'd think he'd know the risks of the project he is overseeing. Naoko knew about it.

[Anonymous_Evafan]

It's worth noting Yui and Kyoko's CE's are reguarded as failures.

23. Dummy Plug

C. Confidential Information

A copy of a personality is made in the Dummy Plug, but a soul cannot be copied. Why can't it be done, or how would it be done? As far as the technology branches of Seele and Nerv are concerned, it is a theme of research integral to seeking out the Path to God, and study into how to deal with the problem has spanned many years. Examples of failure include Yui and Asuka's mother. The Dummy Plug is something that came about in the midst of that research.

[Lleonard Pler]

I don't know about Gendo, but I always thought that Yui did know what was going to happen.

[Shin-seiki]

Examples of failure include Yui and Asuka's mother.

Interesting to note that Unit-00 isn't included here as a failure. I think this entry in the CI probably deserves more attention than it has hereto received, since this seems to be the most significant indication we're given regarding the actual point of the Contact Experiments. This seems to bring back the old "soul imprinting" theory we used to kick around on ANF a few years ago. I find it perplexing, tho, to contemplate how this may or may not relate to the CE performed on Adam at the time of 2I...

[Anonymous_Evafan]

I don't know about Gendo, but I always thought that Yui did know what was going to happen.

She did, put her chat with Fuyutsuki from 21' with it's conclusion in EoE and that's clear.

21')
TEXT:
Year 2003
Ashinoko Lakefront, Hakone

Fuyutsuki:
Today is just like every other day.
The disappearance of autumn from this country is truly sad.
The Secret Dead Sea Scrolls that Seele possesses...
If things happen as it is written in those scrolls,
the Third Impact will happen in another decade or so without fail.

Yui:
The organizations are meant to prevent the final tragedy.
That is what Seele and Gehirn are.

Fuyutsuki:
I support your ideas, not Seele's.

Yui:
Professor Fuyutsuki, it will be very dangerous
to unleash that seal upon the world.

Fuyutsuki:
I have already handed the data over to Ikari.
It's not something that can be accomplished by an individual after all.
There won't be a repeat performance of the stunt I pulled earlier.
And I've sort of received a warning.
Getting rid of me couldn't be easier for them, it seems.

Yui:
The same goes for all the survivors.
It's a simple thing to destroy people.

Fuyutsuki:
But that's no reason for you to become an experimental subject.

Yui:
I will go along with the flow of things.
After all, that is why I am at Seele.
For Shinji.
-----
EoE)
(Flashback to 13 years ago - Fuyutsuki, Yui and infant-Shinji)

Fuyutsuki:
Humans create Evangelion in imitation of God... Is this our true goal?

Yui:
Yes. Humans can only live on this planet, but Evangelion can live forever... together with the human soul that dwells within it.

(EVA-01 and the Lance of Longinus float in space)

Even after 5 billion years, when the Earth, the Moon, and even the Sun have disappeared, it will still exist as long as even one person still lives.
It will be very lonely, but as long as that one person still lives...

Fuyutsuki:
It will be the eternal proof that humankind has existed...

Interesting to note that Unit-00 isn't included here as a failure.
<snipage>

Hmm, very interesting point.

[Sailor Star Dust]

I agree that Yui knew what would happen, but Gendou did not.

Why else set up Jinri Hokan Keikoku but to see Yui again?

[Reichu]

Interesting to note that Unit-00 isn't included here as a failure.

That mean she was a success?

I think this entry in the CI probably deserves more attention than it has hereto received, since this seems to be the most significant indication we're given regarding the actual point of the Contact Experiments. This seems to bring back the old "soul imprinting" theory we used to kick around on ANF a few years ago.

I believe I made a comment to that effect when I initially posted the translation, but that comment didn't get very much attention itself. ;)

I find it perplexing, tho, to contemplate how this may or may not relate to the CE performed on Adam at the time of 2I...

Quite; I don't see how it would, honestly. I doubt the Adam-Eva experiments have much in common at all aside from the basics: the "contact" between a Lilim and a "god". The first CE is the odd one out since the Lilim is called a "donor" rather than a "test subject", the "god" is a soulful Adam rather than a soulless Eva, and the circumstances in general are completely different.

But, hey, they've got three phenomena as disparate as GI, 2I, and 3I listed as "Impacts" (their only unifying features are "global scale" and "Seed involvement"), so maybe it's a similarly naming thing with the CEs. I dunno -- just popped into my head for no reason.