So, do all Angels have a core?

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So, do all Angels have a core?

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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:15 pm

I mean, for most angels it's easy to see. But what about Angels like Iruel or Armisael? Do they have cores?
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Postby Anonymous_Evafan » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:30 pm

All Adam dirived Angels have a core. It contains their souls.
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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:45 pm

But where would Iruel keep her core? How about Armisael?
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Postby Anonymous_Evafan » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:48 pm

They have internal cores. You never see Ramiel's but it's mentioned in the attack plan.
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Since the positron beam will be influenced by the Earth's gravity,
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You must penetrate the core precisely.
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Postby MaggotMaster » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:49 pm

flatulant wrote:But where would Iruel keep her core?


Because microorganisms are female, amirite.
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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:50 pm

Ah, okay. I have to fix Wikipedia then. BTW, where did you get that shirt from?
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Postby MaggotMaster » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:54 pm

I shall now proceed to complain about the obsession with designating all non-lilims as female the Evangelion fandom seems to have.
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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:57 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:I shall now proceed to complain about the obsession with designating all non-lilims as female the Evangelion fandom seems to have.


http://www.evacommentary.org/appendix/geektionary_gender.html

Adam ?
Lilith ?
Sachiel ?
Shamshel ?
Ramiel ?
Gaghiel ?
Israfel ? ?
Sandalphon ?
Matarael ?
Sahaquiel ?
Ireul ?
Leliel ?
Bardiel ?
Zeruel ?
Arael ?
Armisael ?
Tabris ?
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:03 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:I shall now proceed to complain about the obsession with designating all non-lilims as female the Evangelion fandom seems to have.

It's pretty pointless. If it can't be proven, it's silly to even entertain the notion.
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Postby Anonymous_Evafan » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:06 pm

flatulant wrote:BTW, where did you get that shirt from?

Don't own it. I took the pic from a certain forum that's not to be spoken of because of a debate going on awhile back.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:09 pm

fatulant wrote:So, do all Angles have a core?

No, but all angles do have vertices.

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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:13 pm

flatulant wrote:http://www.evacommentary.org/appendix/geektionary_gender.html

Adam ♀
Lilith ♀
Sachiel ♂
Shamshel ♀
Ramiel ♀
Gaghiel ♂
Israfel ♀ ♂
Sandalphon ♂
Matarael ♂
Sahaquiel ♀
Ireul ♀
Leliel ♀
Bardiel ♂
Zeruel ♂
Arael ♀
Armisael ♀
Tabris ♂


What the FUCK. How is a giant floating penis supposed to be female?
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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:17 pm

Trigger's Elysium wrote:
flatulant wrote:http://www.evacommentary.org/appendix/geektionary_gender.html

Adam ?
Lilith ?
Sachiel ?
Shamshel ?
Ramiel ?
Gaghiel ?
Israfel ? ?
Sandalphon ?
Matarael ?
Sahaquiel ?
Ireul ?
Leliel ?
Bardiel ?
Zeruel ?
Arael ?
Armisael ?
Tabris ?


What the FUCK. How is a giant floating penis supposed to be female?


Again,

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Shamshel is actually the Angel of the Day, and Day is associated with the male principle, but Asari's deranged mind obviously overrides this. ^_^

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Postby flatulant » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:18 pm

The Eva Monkey wrote:
fatulant wrote:So, do all Angles have a core?

No, but all angles do have vertices.

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Whoops, sorry, it's fixed now.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:47 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:I shall now proceed to complain about the obsession with designating all non-lilims as female the Evangelion fandom seems to have.

Don't look at me. I've done no such thing.

Aaron-kun wrote:If it can't be proven, it's silly to even entertain the notion.

Aaron-kun... You just don't understand, do you? You just don't.

Don't worry. I didn't have any expectations of you from the beginning.

BTW, I'm still not really sure what I "want" Ramiel, Matarael, Sahaquiel, and Ireul to be. But if you disagree with me on any of the others, you are Wrong and you Know It. (Naturally, I've been too lazy and too scared of Dr. Nick to update the list with the bad news about Tabris.)
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Postby felineki » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:44 pm

Trigger's Elysium wrote:What the FUCK. How is a giant floating penis supposed to be female?
You haven't seen Angel Kiss, have you? CANON!! Okay, well not REALLY, but it WAS drawn by the guy who did Shamshel's design, so it's about as close as you can get...

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Postby MaggotMaster » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:38 pm

flatulant wrote:
MaggotMaster wrote:I shall now proceed to complain about the obsession with designating all non-lilims as female the Evangelion fandom seems to have.


http://www.evacommentary.org/appendix/geektionary_gender.html

Adam ♀
Lilith ♀
Sachiel ♂
Shamshel ♀
Ramiel ♀
Gaghiel ♂
Israfel ♀ ♂
Sandalphon ♂
Matarael ♂
Sahaquiel ♀
Ireul ♀
Leliel ♀
Bardiel ♂
Zeruel ♂
Arael ♀
Armisael ♀
Tabris ♂


However, lacking any data whatsoever on how Adam produced the Angels, we'll never know what, if anything, the Angels are. Still, following the precedent Yoshitoh Asari set in Angel Kiss, and drawing from a silly forum thread I created a while back (“If you had to categorize the individual angels as being either male or female, which would each be and why?”), Angelic genders will be assigned for the sheer hell of it. [Oftentimes, these are based on “classical” male/female associations; you can get a general briefer here.] Unlike the SoLs and the Evas, I really am not terribly serious about any of these “designations”


While I agree with Reichu on several points she makes it's somewhat insane to agree on absolutely everything she says just because it's her (not that I have absolutely anything against Reichu), especially in cases like this when she herself seems to point out she's not being too serious about it, I also generally find myself disagreeing with the notion that Evas are female (at least physically) and with the idea of giving the Angels any specific gender when it's clear that, as human as they are, they're radically different from us (how can a two-dimensional creature that contains another universe and has a 3 dimensional shadow have a gender?), and therefore applying such concepts to them is somewhat absurd and I will continue to reffer to Adam based beings as "it" unless it's cases like Kaworu.
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Postby master0rolando » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:55 pm

yeah the whole..."Kaworu is a chick" thing just is never work in my mind

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Postby felineki » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:51 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:(how can a two-dimensional creature that contains another universe and has a 3 dimensional shadow have a gender?)
Through gratuitous womb/birth symbolism, that's how. :P

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Postby MaggotMaster » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:42 am

felineki wrote:
MaggotMaster wrote:(how can a two-dimensional creature that contains another universe and has a 3 dimensional shadow have a gender?)
Through gratuitous womb/birth symbolism, that's how. :P


Just because it symbolizes something it doesn't mean it is that something.

It's like saying a statue that resembles a penis is male just because it looks like one.
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