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Postby Squigsquasher » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:46 am

Sorry if this has already been suggested, but would the ability to "like" posts be easy enough to implement? I know poor Monk Ed is swamped with stuff to do as is, but if it would be relatively simple to code I think it would be a worthwhile addition. Obviously if it would require way too much work then forget it, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
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Postby pwhodges » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:02 pm

This is not a built-in feature of the forum software used here, but there is certainly an actively supported extension that can do this.

When I added a similar system to the forum where I'm admin, I had a number of reservations which fortunately could be met by careful restrictions in the setup (in particular I wanted to restrict the notion to posts, not people, so you couldn't get a count of likes related to individuals - and also to exclude the ability in the areas of the forum where people talked about their personal problems and issues). But implementing it in this slightly constrained manner has proved popular.
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Postby Reichu » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:57 pm

I prefer systems I've seen that are more specific than "like", i.e. you specify if you found a post informative, funny/amusing, provocative in a good way, and so on.

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Postby pwhodges » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:35 pm

Never seen one like that - I fancy it would be hard to keep the interface acceptably clean!
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Postby jcmoorehead » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:39 pm

SV has a system like that, basically on the bottom right of a post you have a few little symbols each representing a diff thing so on there it's Like, Hugs, Insightful, Informative and Funny. It's really clean and unobstrusive, works pretty well over there.

I'd be in favour of something like that here, as long as we keep it to only the positive reinforcement ones. I'm on another forum where they have a 'Dislike' button too, and it does have a habit of causing arguments and petty drama.

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Postby NemZ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:20 pm

I can see how that would help curb people's need to add low-content agreement posts that just clutter up the place. I don't hate it?
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Postby Joseki » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:36 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:Never seen one like that - I fancy it would be hard to keep the interface acceptably clean!


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That's how is done on many forums (I used and Adventure Time one as example). The options are: like, dislike, agree, disagree, funny, winner, informative, friendly, usueful, optimistic, creative. Probably some are redundant but I think it can lower the amount of "shitposting" by having some virtual rewards for a good post.

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That's how is done on an other forum I use quite a bit, it's more generic but probably easier to add. It's not as specific as the other one and it has been occasionally used to basically downvote people with different ideas.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:50 pm

I've seen the multi-factor "like" thing in a few places on the 'net (often as not, text-options rather than icons) -- but they tend to be places I reach via link-chains, rather than visit regularly, so can't point to them as examples.

At this point in time, I am generally indifferent to the proposal, though that is with the hope that the next Rebuild film will not be anywhere near as divisive in the fandom as the last couple have been. We don't really have a problem with "Me too /AOL" or "QFMFT" type posting for "le upboat" to combat, and it's not something I personally make much use of in the few places in my usual rounds that offer the facility, but if it's something that people make use of, then I'm not actively against it.

I would keep the feature to Chit-chat, Discussion, Rebuild and possibly the off-topic /a/, /tv/ and /v/ sub-forums, though.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:18 am

- I wouldn't want "like and dislike" on the basis that they are too nonspecific and don't add anything of value.
- "Agree", I'm not crazy about. It's possibly better than a spammy stream of "me too", "THIS", "^ :thumbsup:", etc. etc. On the other hand, we're here to discuss things, so optimally you want someone to say WHY they agree, not simply that they DO.
- "Disagree" I can't possibly condone. Disagreement is something that people need to be able to articulate, not just click a button for. Making a post and then not getting any response other than "disagree x5" -- why would we want that?

The other types of markers like "informative", "funny", "insightful", and so on are good, though, as I've noted.

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Postby robersora » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:00 am

@Joseki
In those examples you've provided: Do the poster or other people see which user clicked which button?
For example:
I upvote Reichu's post -> everybody sees that robersora upvoted it
or is it more like
I upvote Reichu's post -> Reichu sees that robersora did that, but for everyone else it's anonymous.
or is it more like
I upvote Reichu's post -> no one has a clue who did it, but someone upvoted Reichu's post.
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:11 am

The way the QC system works is simple - there is only one button: "Like". When it has been clicked the post shows "This has been liked by n people", and you can hover (or click, perhaps, I forget) to get a list of those people. You also see directly if you yourself are one of those who liked it (the "Like" button turns to "Unlike" for rescinding your vote), and you can withdraw your like if you change your mind (or clicked in error). In addition the system allows, but I have disabled, information on how many posts a specific person has liked, or how many likes a person's posts have received overall, and some other statistics.

I get the impression that it is reinforcing the generation of good posts, and there was certainly an end of simple agreement posts (though we had already suppressed "+1" postings by moderatorial fiat).
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Postby Director Black » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:51 pm

Maybe, but if this does get through, we may face the outcry of when we're going to add the dislike button
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Postby Joseki » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:38 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:@Joseki
In those examples you've provided: Do the poster or other people see which user clicked which button?
For example:
I upvote Reichu's post -> everybody sees that robersora upvoted it
or is it more like
I upvote Reichu's post -> Reichu sees that robersora did that, but for everyone else it's anonymous.
or is it more like
I upvote Reichu's post -> no one has a clue who did it, but someone upvoted Reichu's post.


On the first forum I used as an example you can see who upvoted/downvoted/marked as informative etc. that has been given to any post.
On the other forum you can only see who upvoted your post. You can't even see who downvoted you.

There's actually a third forum I usually post that has a rate system and it consist in a simple public upvote/downvote. It doesn't really add anything but usually useful post end up having a good number of upvotes and the downvotes are pretty much all misclick. I must add that it's a pretty small forum about Detective Conan so while for some aspects it has similar contet to this forum (being pretty much all theories or opinions on some plot aspects) there are no big difference in the users, we all have pretty much the same hopes or expectations. Or at least there's no huge debate as we have here on Q or rebuilds in general, while the orther two forums are more similar to this one.

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Postby NemZ » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:59 pm

That would be more useful in a forum with easily sortable threads, but I don't see much value in public downvoting here. At the extremes that's what the report feature is for.
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:43 pm

If a "like" feature was a possibility, it would be better if it didn't have a downvote/unlike feature as well. Other forums I browse added the like feature but made it a thing to not add a dislike button with it. It ends up making the atmosphere more negative than before.
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Postby A.T. Fish » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:59 am

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:The way the QC system works is simple - there is only one button: "Like". When it has been clicked the post shows "This has been liked by n people", and you can hover (or click, perhaps, I forget) to get a list of those people. You also see directly if you yourself are one of those who liked it (the "Like" button turns to "Unlike" for rescinding your vote), and you can withdraw your like if you change your mind (or clicked in error). In addition the system allows, but I have disabled, information on how many posts a specific person has liked, or how many likes a person's posts have received overall, and some other statistics.

I get the impression that it is reinforcing the generation of good posts, and there was certainly an end of simple agreement posts (though we had already suppressed "+1" postings by moderatorial fiat).


If a like system was to be implemented I think this would be the best approach. A dislike button is just a catalyst for drama, if someone dislikes a post they should elaborate why that is, not simply click a button and move on. I also don't see the point in the other options such as "informative" and "funny", the like button pretty much covers this stuff and you can often guess which one from context. A wall of text in a political thread with a lot of likes is probably not a funny post (maybe if it's Chuckman's) and a short sentence in the moonwalk thread is probably not something informative (again, maybe if it's Chuckman's).

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Postby Sicarius VI » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:48 am

Was there every any update on this actually being a feature?

If so I wholeheartedly support it. Not only for the reasons of just being able to like or thank a post.

The other problem a like system would addressed is making unanswered/responded to post not as ignored. This is the problem I find drives me away from the forum. It sucks when I make a long post about something Eva related or any post really and either it's skipped right over or just outright ignored.

If a thanks or like system was implemented than at least someone could like it so the poster would know that said person read it, and at least someone listened but didn't want to right a full post saying "Agreed" or whatever have you.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:20 pm

So I do need to ask then. Because this always seems to happen.... IS it that people see this and don't respond or no one bothers to look at the thread and thus my post is ignored?

I don't know why every time I bring this problem up absolutely no one responds to it(which ironically just gives me more fuel for the exact problem I have with the absent of upvote/like/thank system).
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Postby Monk Ed » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:51 pm

Read it, been thinking about it. The problem is real.
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Postby Monk Ed » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:01 am

Actually, we're due for another major update to the forum software that I wanted to have done before I start my new job in April, and I wouldn't be surprised if that came built-in or had an off-the-shelf extension for it.
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