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Postby TheDrmcvey » Wed May 14, 2014 9:24 pm

Feel free to move this post to an old thread if you'd like.

Ok, so as a new Eva fan who just entered the fandom 3 years ago, I have been trying to find some of the cheapest options online when buying the complete original series. Unfortunately, since the series is now out of print, I have come across some outrageous prices online that range from $150 to $250. Obviously since NGE is now considered a collector's item, people who own the original series are now charging it as high as they want, since no other industry is competing with them.

My question to you all is do you know where I can find the complete series at a much cheaper price. And also, what is the current status of NGE's merchandising rights and who would be able to pick it up? I'd live to get a Blu-Ray release of it.
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Postby ZapX » Wed May 14, 2014 10:41 pm

View Original PostZapX wrote:I have Platinum thinpak in great condition if you want it. Looking to sell it for around $80. Also have D&R/EoE box set.
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Postby Ray » Wed May 14, 2014 11:24 pm

So. . .If I understand it correctly. And correct me if I'm mistake n.

The now defunct ADV owned the rights to the original NGE series, and now it's more or less in Legal Limbo.

Manga Entertainment owns the rights to EOE.

and Funimation owns the rights to ROE.

and all that goes back to Gainax, Khara, and Anno.

So. . .yeah. Despite its popularity. Unless Funimation comes up with the money to buy/renew the rights. . .I don't think we're getting a bluray box set of the original series. Rebuild? Definitely. NGE? Unlikely.
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Postby Ornette » Wed May 14, 2014 11:37 pm

Both NGE and EoE licenses have expired, and nobody plans on renewing them. From this post, makes it seem like they're not even making them available to be licensed.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed May 14, 2014 11:58 pm

Also: stuff about a bluray release was discussed in depth in several threads, nitty gritty details in this post.

The main issue is NGE/EoE would have to be upscaled, and some of the original prints (e.g. episode 16) were lost.
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Postby Chuckman » Thu May 15, 2014 12:08 am

View Original PostOrnette wrote:Both NGE and EoE licenses have expired, and nobody plans on renewing them. From this post, makes it seem like they're not even making them available to be licensed.


When companies do shit like this, it makes me think they hate money.
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Postby Ornette » Thu May 15, 2014 12:18 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:When companies do shit like this, it makes me think they hate money.

Or they hate getting sued by the parent company of the company that they previously licensed the property to.
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Postby TheDrmcvey » Thu May 15, 2014 1:20 am

[quote="View Original PostZapX":3a9xgwf6][/quote:3a9xgwf6] Hm, that's something I may have to look into later. Sounds a little cheaper than the other ones.
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Postby Ray » Thu May 15, 2014 3:39 pm

So is there Any hope for Funimation to release a complete Evangelion box set down the line? It's a pain in the keister having to hunt down old DVDs.

I would pay top dollar for the original NGE series, EOE, The Rebuild Films, CDs for all the OSTs, an artbook, and maybe. . .maybe. . .a few episodes of Insufficient Direction in the bonus features?

Realistically, how much cash would Funi have to dish out to bring all of Eva together under one roof (minus the Manga)?
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Postby AR-99 » Thu May 15, 2014 5:28 pm

While licensing fees are an issue, the willingness of the rights holder to license the work (s) to begin with is the bigger issue. Funi could throw a boatload of money at King Records/khara/whoever and if they still say no at the end of the day there's the roadblock.
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Postby Clover » Thu May 15, 2014 5:36 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:So is there Any hope for Funimation to release a complete Evangelion box set down the line? It's a pain in the keister having to hunt down old DVDs.

I would pay top dollar for the original NGE series, EOE, The Rebuild Films, CDs for all the OSTs, an artbook, and maybe. . .maybe. . .a few episodes of Insufficient Direction in the bonus features?

Realistically, how much cash would Funi have to dish out to bring all of Eva together under one roof (minus the Manga)?

So much that it would be unprofitable.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu May 15, 2014 8:10 pm

Pretty sure one of the other threads discussing NGE/EoE re-release (BD or just a regular re-release) mentioned that either:

1) Gainax/Khara wanted a hell of a lot of money from the stateside distributors.

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2) They just weren't interested in re-releasing at the time.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu May 15, 2014 10:19 pm

The dangling carrot for Funimation to pony up a ton of money for the rights to the tv series and movies is probably going to be being able to release it on Blu-ray. That will justify a lot of fans buying it AGAIN. Problem is, no such master exists at this time. So when you hear of a Japanese Blu-ray release, that will be the time to cross your fingers. Inbetween now and then, I don't expect much movement. Maybe after Final comes out on domestic video several years from now, and they've gone and made the ultimate collected edition of the new movies they'll look for something else to sell.
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Postby Princess Asuka » Thu May 15, 2014 10:23 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Pretty sure one of the other threads discussing NGE/EoE re-release (BD or just a regular re-release) mentioned that either:

1) Gainax/Khara wanted a hell of a lot of money from the stateside distributors.

OR

2) They just weren't interested in re-releasing at the time.

Seems like with every popular anime series they want a lot of money for it.

Just look at Sailor Moon, still waiting on a full release of the series over here.

I'm just happy I already own Eva Platinum and the box set of the movies. To be honest, I'd rather buy an out print official release DVD set than buy a bootleg one.

My opinion cute bootlegs like plushies and stuff that's so bad it's funny is fine, but when it's of movies and music and they look really close to actual item that's when I get scared. :bigeyes:
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Postby Ray » Fri May 16, 2014 12:31 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:The dangling carrot for Funimation to pony up a ton of money for the rights to the tv series and movies is probably going to be being able to release it on Blu-ray. That will justify a lot of fans buying it AGAIN. Problem is, no such master exists at this time.


You mean like the original print is missing? As in somebody stole them? Like The Sex Pistols Original master recordings are gone forever level missing? Dang, that is a bit of a problem isn't it? Is there anything that can be done short of reanimating the whole series?
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Postby Chuckman » Fri May 16, 2014 12:33 am

I'm not really sure what benefit you'd get from the series on blu-ray other than a cleaned up new transfer.
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View Original PostRay wrote:You mean like the original print is missing? As in somebody stole them? Like The Sex Pistols Original master recordings are gone forever level missing? Dang, that is a bit of a problem isn't it? Is there anything that can be done short of reanimating the whole series?


Back in 2003 they had all the original negatives except for parts of ep 16. Those were instead remastered from an internegative. Assuming they still care that should still be how it is.

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I'm not really sure what benefit you'd get from the series on blu-ray other than a cleaned up new transfer.

That is all the benefit you need. The 2003 remaster is pretty crap even by DVD standards. Even 20-40 year old, cheap ass 16mm film benefits from a proper HD scan.

Best case scenario is Japan rescans the whole thing with staff supervision. Probable scenario is they dump the 2003 remaster onto BDs for cheap profit and no benefit in picture quality. Absolute worst case scenario is Funimation licenses it, tries to do their own remaster and viciously fucks it sideways by cropping it to 16:9 and filtering the life out of it like they did with DBZ.
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Postby Dataprime » Fri May 16, 2014 8:54 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:The dangling carrot for Funimation to pony up a ton of money for the rights to the tv series and movies is probably going to be being able to release it on Blu-ray. That will justify a lot of fans buying it AGAIN. Problem is, no such master exists at this time.


Maybe Funimation will re-master it themselves; just like what they did with DBZ :nervouslaugh: :lol:

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Fri May 16, 2014 10:11 am

View Original PostRay wrote:You mean like the original print is missing? As in somebody stole them? Like The Sex Pistols Original master recordings are gone forever level missing? Dang, that is a bit of a problem isn't it? Is there anything that can be done short of reanimating the whole series?

Funimation can't copy a Blu-ray release that doesn't exist. That's the way it works. The anime licensing/distribution business is derivative, not generative.
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