So, after finally rewatching 3.33 after a good few years since I first watched online bluray versions of Japan, i've considered the information and theories conjured up by everyone here. However, there are a few questions here i'd like to ask:

1. If the Spears require two souls to wield, how did Mark 06 use them?

2. Is Kaworu deceiving Shinji the whole time?

3. Was Mark.06 sealing the 12th Angel inside itself, or was it another case like Unit 03 where it kinda was the angel?

4. When Kaworu is standing in the destroyed watermelon field, where exactly is that in the landscape/world? Shouldn't it not even be there anymore?

5. What is Unit 13 and Mark 09 exactly?

6. What are the current most popular theories about what happened during the timeskip?

These are just some of my thoughts are rewatching it for the third time, but if there are things i'm simply unware of which are considered the norm theories, I apologise.

I'll attempt to tackle a few of the less ambiguous and debateable questions

Eliaskar wrote:1. If the Spears require two souls to wield, how did Mark 06 use them?

One soul per spear. Kaworu's plan involved two spears, so he needed Shinji.

3. Was Mark.06 sealing the 12th Angel inside itself, or was it another case like Unit 03 where it kinda was the angel?

Probably something more similar to Armisael from the original series. I think the two merged, and then attempted to reach Lilith.

4. When Kawory is standing in the destroyed watermelon field, where exactly is that in the landscape/world? Shouldn't it not even be there anymore?

The watermelons were in the GeoFront, on the same level as the pyramid. The inverted pyramid of Neo-Nerv in Q is part of the Geofront raised into the sky. When Rei Q brings Shinji to Neo-Nerv, we see the original Nerv pryamid.

And Mark.06, Mark.09, and Unit-13 are each likely Adams repurposed into Evangelions.

Sachi wrote:And Mark.06, Mark.09, and Unit-13 are each likely Adams repurposed into Evangelions.

Don't forget Unit-01

Sachi wrote:I'll attempt to tackle a few of the less ambiguous and debateable questions


One soul per spear. Kaworu's plan involved two spears, so he needed Shinji.


Probably something more similar to Armisael from the original series. I think the two merged, and then attempted to reach Lilith.


The watermelons were in the GeoFront, on the same level as the pyramid. The inverted pyramid of Neo-Nerv in Q is part of the Geofront raised into the sky. When Rei Q brings Shinji to Neo-Nerv, we see the original Nerv pryamid.

And Mark.06, Mark.09, and Unit-13 are each likely Adams repurposed into Evangelions.

But then, if Mark-06 and the Angel merged, how would it have had any control over itself to pierce itself and Lilith with spears?

You say one soul per spear correct, but that still doesn't explain how it used two of them, especially when it's now apparantely autonomous.

Eliaskar wrote:You say one soul per spear correct, but that still doesn't explain how it used two of them, especially when it's now apparantely autonomous.

You should keep in mind that Kaworu tended to be very cryptic/deceiving when discussing anything related to third impact. Shinji has no recollection of third impact because he's been gone for so long yet he is somehow responsible for 3I and N3I, there could be a whole lot that Kaworu left in dark. I mean, he left Shinji in the dark about him being the original pilot of Mark 06 and that he halted N3I. There's probably a whole bucket load of information about how 3I actually went down after N3I yet people are choosing to keep it in the dark, maybe we'll get a more detailed explanation in FINAL? After all, there was quite a big infodump of in universe mechanics in EoE.

Eliaskar wrote:5. What is Unit 13 and Mark 09 exactly?

I think it's not Unit 13, just Eva 13. For some reason there's a distinction - maybe because it has a double entry system. Note how they drop the Unit for Eva 02+08 as well.

And yeah, I too think that Unit 01, Mark 06, Mark 09 and Unit 13 are all Adam's (vessels).

Eliaskar wrote:But then, if Mark-06 and the Angel merged, how would it have had any control over itself to pierce itself and Lilith with spears?

You say one soul per spear correct, but that still doesn't explain how it used two of them, especially when it's now apparantely autonomous.

If you really do need one soul per Spear, then it probably didn't impale itself. Mari and Asuka could have done it, Unit 01 could have done it, or an unknown party we haven't seen yet.

The Spear piercing Mark.06 seems much too long for the Eva to have pierced itself. When Unit 13 impales itself, the Eva's hands are right next to its body, it rams the Spears in hilt-first, and the shorter parts of the Spears are sticking out of the Eva's back. Mark.06's hands are farther from its body, the two spears went through Lilith/Mark.06 tip first, and the shorter end is sticking out of the Eva's front side. To me, it looks like someone threw the Spears from the front or above and the Eva was trying to pull it out before deactivating.

TheFriskyIan wrote:You should keep in mind that Kaworu tended to be very cryptic/deceiving when discussing anything related to third impact. Shinji has no recollection of third impact because he's been gone for so long yet he is somehow responsible for 3I and N3I, there could be a whole lot that Kaworu left in dark. I mean, he left Shinji in the dark about him being the original pilot of Mark 06 and that he halted N3I. There's probably a whole bucket load of information about how 3I actually went down after N3I yet people are choosing to keep it in the dark, maybe we'll get a more detailed explanation in FINAL? After all, there was quite a big infodump of in universe mechanics in EoE.

Yeah, perhaps FINAL will end up being able to explain some of the stuff, but I feel like there won't be enough time to do everything involving the plot and explain all that needs to be explained in probably an hour and a half to two hours. I do get this kinda creepy vibe from Kaworu after watching it dubbed, rather than in Japanese but i'm not sure if that was intentional or just the dub.

BlueBasilisk wrote:If you really do need one soul per Spear, then it probably didn't impale itself. Mari and Asuka could have done it, Unit 01 could have done it, or an unknown party we haven't seen yet.

The Spear piercing Mark.06 seems much too long for the Eva to have pierced itself. When Unit 13 impales itself, the Eva's hands are right next to its body, it rams the Spears in hilt-first, and the shorter parts of the Spears are sticking out of the Eva's back. Mark.06's hands are farther from its body, the two spears went through Lilith/Mark.06 tip first, and the shorter end is sticking out of the Eva's front side. To me, it looks like someone threw the Spears from the front or above and the Eva was trying to pull it out before deactivating.

That would explain a bit, other units were probably involved in dealing with them.

About the "one soul per Spear" thing... I wonder exactly what that is supposed to mean. Do you need a soul just to pick up the Spear at all? Would it be completely unmovable, like the Sword in the Stone, if Rei Q tried to manipulate it? Or are souls just needed to tap into the Spears' higher powers? Like, no soul needed to pick it up and stab someone with it, but forget about it performing any Impact miracles for you. It's like the difference between being able to pick up a gun and clobber someone over the head with its butt, and actually being able to shoot bullets with it.