All right, t'seems that all these three words are greek. Don't know if ancient or modern one. And if I'm correct it would be like:
Neon -> New
Genesis -> genesis, origin, birth
Evangelion -> Good news
So the meaning would be "The good news of a new birth", right?
"Neon Genesis Evangelion" - the meaning
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"Neon Genesis Evangelion" - the meaning
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Check scene 003... or I'll just quote it
So you're kind of right on that one
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* neon is the neuter form of neos, meaning "new"
* genesis means "birth" or "origin"
* "evangelion" comes from euangelion (ancient Greek had no "v"; the "v" switch came when the word entered Latin, which wrote all of its "u"s as "v"s), which is listed here as meaning "good news". The term is ultimately derived from euangelos, a combination of eu- ("good") and angelos ("messenger" -- and, yes, this is where the term "angel" comes from). In modern usage, "good news" has come to refer to the Christian gospel, which is why you'll often see Evangelion translated as "gospel."
So in absolute literal terms, "Neon Genesis Evangelion" means "New Birth Gospel." Errrr... okay.
[The American Heritage Dictionary. Second College Edition. Boston: Houston Mifflin Company, 1982.]
So you're kind of right on that one
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And that's gotta be the... what, fifth thread on the subject here?
And that's gotta be the... what, fifth thread on the subject here?
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But nobody tries to make the sentence with "good news". Because I've been in a similar discussion in which the two alternatives were:
1) The new genesis of (a) good news
2) The good news of a new birth/origin
I prefer the second, although I can't say for sure which one actually is true
1) The new genesis of (a) good news
2) The good news of a new birth/origin
I prefer the second, although I can't say for sure which one actually is true
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The way I have seen it translated is either "New Century Gospel" or "Gospel of the New Century" where Gospel essentially means good news....
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Greek title - Gospel of the New Beginning
Japanese title - Gospel of the New Century
My own preferred synthesis, with deliberate allusion to Crowley and his ilk, is
Gospel of the New Æon
Japanese title - Gospel of the New Century
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Gospel of the New Æon
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Genesis does not mean "centry" (or "century", if that is what you meant).
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Reichu wrote:Genesis does not mean "centry" (or "century", if that is what you meant).
Actually the Japanese (same in Chinese) characters that appear that are supposedly read "Shin Seiki" means New Century. I don't know why they translated it to Neon Genesis but I do agree it sounds like 1000000000x cooler than New Century.
The term used of Paul in his epistles to describe the preaching of Christ and in the Septuagint as a translation of "good news" in general is euangelion. From the Online Etymology Dictionary:
Again, from the same resource:
gospel wrote:O.E. godspel "good news," from god "good" + spel "story, message," translation of L. bona adnuntiatio, itself a translation of Gk. euangelion "reward for bringing good news." First element of the O.E. word had a long "o," but it shifted under mistaken assoc. with God.
Again, from the same resource:
genesis wrote:O.E., from L. genesis, adopted as title of first book of Old Testament in Vulgate, from Gk. genesis "origin, creation, generation," from gignesthai "to be born," related to genos "race, birth, descent" (see genus). As such, it translated Heb. bereshith, lit. "in the beginning," which was the first word of the text, taken in error as its title. Extended sense of "origin, creation" first recorded in Eng. 1604.
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Wayne wrote:Actually the Japanese (same in Chinese) characters that appear that are supposedly read "Shin Seiki" means New Century.
Not "supposedly" -- they do. I was just correcting Jin's seeming assumption that one title is equivalent to the other.
BTW, interesting bit about "gospel" being a translation of euangelion. I'll have to add that one to the commentary.
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Well, not that funny to me. What you english speakers call "the gospels", we spanish speakers call "los evangelios". gospel=evangelio (EN-ES).
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AchtungAffen wrote:Well, not that funny to me. What you english speakers call "the gospels", we spanish speakers call "los evangelios". gospel=evangelio (EN-ES).
And what you people call "evangelion" we call it ευαγγέλιο!
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the_seventh_child wrote:AchtungAffen wrote:Well, not that funny to me. What you english speakers call "the gospels", we spanish speakers call "los evangelios". gospel=evangelio (EN-ES).
And what you people call "evangelion" we call it ευαγγέλιο!
So, does that phoneticise in the same way? If not, how exactly is it pronounced?
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Soluzar wrote:the_seventh_child wrote:AchtungAffen wrote:Well, not that funny to me. What you english speakers call "the gospels", we spanish speakers call "los evangelios". gospel=evangelio (EN-ES).
And what you people call "evangelion" we call it ευαγγέλιο!
So, does that phoneticise in the same way? If not, how exactly is it pronounced?
The ευαγγέλιο--means gospel-- pronounced exactly evangelio..Without the "n" at the end..And we Christioans have a book called γένεσις which is pronounced ghenesis..
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I wonder if the pronunciation of that "gh" correlates to the spanish or arab "j".
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AchtungAffen wrote:I wonder if the pronunciation of that "gh" correlates to the spanish or arab "j".
Yeah i think it does..
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