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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby robersora » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:46 am

^
I really don't understand that mindset. Quality over Quantity always!
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Postby amitakartok » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:12 am

The six hour thing is now spreading to Spacebattles and Sufficient Velocity.

I referred them here to let them know it's a hoax.
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:58 am

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Quality over Quantity always!

A lot of people outside Evageeks were very dissatisfied with how the third film went down it seems the movie being six hours with tons of exposition is the only way in their eyes that Q can be "redeemed".
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Postby Blockio » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:15 am

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:A lot of people outside Evageeks were very dissatisfied with how the third film went down it seems the movie being six hours with tons of exposition is the only way in their eyes that Q can be "redeemed".

If you think a movie needs six hours of expodump to be "redeemed", I don't know what to tell you, honestly. (not referring to you in particular here btw)
Like, there will definitely be stuff on what happened during the timeskip, but anyone who goes into the movie expecting a detailed timeline of events will be gravely disappointwed; that's just not how Anno does things
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby ShinjiStranglesAsuka » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:18 am

I mean 6 hours just sounds insane,. I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics these people are doing to justify it in their head that it's even remotely possible for the movie to run that long.

I'm hoping for about a 120-150 minute runtime myself.

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Postby Shun » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:28 am

:lol: I love Khara's simple and obvious answer. I had thought complicated things but they had absolutely nothing to do with it, I hadn't even thought about the roll film, very well :sweatdrop:
If Anno has read the tweets about fan expectations, 3 hours, 6 hours, even 15 hours, what he will have thought ?! Btw, 120+ min seems to me a good duration.
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Postby BusterMachine4 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:33 am

If this movie really is over two hours long, then I'm really looking forward to it. I think it needs to be that long in order to turn the confusing weirdness of Q into a satisfying conclusion. Anno promised this version of the ending wouldn't be so dark or confusing, and I really hope he's telling the truth.

But I don't see how anyone could think it could possibly be six hours long. I mean come on, how many movies can you think of that are that long? The only movies ever made that have been over five hours long are weird avant-garde experimental stuff. Eva is weird, but it isn't that weird.

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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:26 am

I can't stop laughing about the absurdity of people actually having a serious conversation on "Is the movie six hours?"

I'm predicting a final runtime of 115 to 130 minutes. That's without credits.
Then possibly a longer cut extended cut on home video.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:42 am

Wow, binge culture has really warped audience’s sense of time when it comes to media creation and consumption, huh

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Postby Blockio » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:16 pm

I mean, I wouldn't mind a six hour movie, but no way in hell am I expecting it to be any more than three hours long, and even that is really pushing it
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby amitakartok » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:39 pm

No cinema audience would ever sit through a six hour movie. It would be doable for direct-to-BD and direct-to-stream movies, but not for one meant for the big screen.
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Keiji » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:57 am

A very good french website which translate the news said that it's not a 6 hours movie. But they say it should be a long movie because the final part (D part) is more than 40 minutes long, which is a lot. ^_^

source : https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/intere ... es/.164956

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Postby kuribo-04 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:11 am

Films being long and good isn't mutually exclusive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1t%C3%A1ntang%C3%B3

But yeah, Shin obviously won't be that long.
Still amazing how Kyoto Animation just went for 160 minutes with Haruhi.
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Joseki » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:23 am

AVANT1 = 10m40s
AVANT2 = ??m??s
A PART = ??m??s
B PART = ??m??s
C PART = ??m??s
D PART = 41m06s
CREDITS? = ??m??s
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TOTAL = 51m46s

I don't know if credits are included in D part of not but we know that the movie is currently at least 51 minutes long. :tongue:

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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Thesufferingpumpkin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:33 am

knowing anno, there could also be an epilogue before the credits, that we just wont ever know about until we see it.

Avant 1
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B
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Keiji » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:01 am

View Original PostJoseki wrote:I don't know if credits are included in D part of not


The french website that I quoted said credits are not included for D part. ^_^

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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby BusterMachine4 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:01 am

So, if we imagine that both AVANT pieces are 10 minutes long, and the 4 parts afterwards are each 40 minutes long, then that means that the approximate runtime, including credits, is 185 minutes. Maybe I'm being overly hopeful, but I think something along those lines is possible.

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Postby Mr. M » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:28 am

View Original PostBusterMachine4 wrote:So, if we imagine that both AVANT pieces are 10 minutes long, and the 4 parts afterwards are each 40 minutes long, then that means that the approximate runtime, including credits, is 185 minutes. Maybe I'm being overly hopeful, but I think something along those lines is possible.

Not all the Parts have the same run time, also the last Part is the longest, as they said.

But, If I can participate to this "game", If the Avant 2 is the "missing Part D" of 3.0 (announced lengh of 120 minutes counting the Ghibli short, final run time 106m, short included.), there are 11 minutes lost, so mayyyybe this could be an hypothetical lengh for the Avant 2 (it would match Avant 1 lengh too).
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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Joseki » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 am

AVANT1 = ~10m
AVANT2 = ~10m
A PART = ~25m / ~20m
B PART = ~30m / ~25m
C PART = ~30m / ~25m
D PART = ~40m / ~35m
CREDITS = ~5m
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TOTAL = ~150m / ~ 130m

I think the movie will be in this range. I'm hoping for 150m but I'm expecting closer to 120m for the theatrical cut.

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Re: Shin Eva - Official Social Media

Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:25 am

Anno is a very efficient filmmaker. His longest movie - Ritual - is 128 minutes.
Even a film as complex and loaded with information Shin Godzilla runs under 2 hours if you remove the end credits from the runtime.
He may aim for a a running time just over 2 hours since this will be his last ever go with Evangelion but people throwing out 150 to 190 minutes runtimes as if those are even practical - especially since we already know Khara has had discussions with theaters about keeping it around 2 hours - are fooling themselves.

Does this mean there won't be a longer cut on home video at some point? No. I've long held the belief the final step in the production of the Rebuilds is Khara will go back through all four films and do one last round of re-edits, additions and corrections in all four movies to make them more unified and that could lead to all four being slightly extended.

But anticipating a Lord of the Rings or Avengers length experience from a filmmaker who over the last 25 years as a filmmaker has entirely rejected lengthy runtimes is setting yourself up for disappointment.

Anticipate a runtime of just under (115) or just over (125-130) two hours and then be pleasantly surprised if they go past that.


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