Controversial Anime Opinions

[MuscleRobo]

Kamille is the worst protag in the Gundam franchise, having no justification for why the Arghama crew puts up with his behavior, less so than with other Gundam boys. And Zeta's extra serious tone makes the monster of the week elements in the show more grueling to sit through and less entertaining to watch than in 0079.

Worse than Shinn? Worse than Kou "He's so forgettable I had to google his name" Uraki? Well I love Kamille but hey when you're a kid and you watch someone punch adults and say "ADULTS LIKE YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND!" that's basic wish fufillment isn't it? He's just such an angry little boy. I love when you fight Domon in one of the SD Generation games and Kamille gets upset shouting "You think beating up people is fun?! Huh? How about I beat you up!"

Much of hatred of SEED and IBO is the Gundam fandom not wanting female writers touching their precious toy commercial show. They're afraid they'll catch cooties.

I've always thought Seed got a bit too bad of a rep but I didn't even consider this! Although the quality takes a sharp dive after

SPOILER: Show

Niciol's Death, which was changed for the worse in the new airing in HD, and Kira and Athrun's fight to the "death"

honestly up until that point it was really, really good!

[Bagheera]

It is absurd to automatically assume a sub has a better translation than a dub.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that that is often the case.

I want more Josei anime.

We need more Seinen and Josei anime in general, yes.

My Little monster is one of the worst anime and most disturbing anime I have ever seen in my entire life and you couldn't pay me to watch it again.

This one's peculiar. I don't even know where you're coming from here.

Kamille is the worst protag in the Gundam franchise, having no justification for why the Arghama crew puts up with his behavior, less so than with other Gundam boys.

Kou, Shinn, and the Wing boys are all much worse.

Much of hatred of SEED and IBO is the Gundam fandom not wanting female writers touching their precious toy commercial show. They're afraid they'll catch cooties.

True for IBO, but SEED gets heat because it's legitimately mediocre (and the fact that Destiny is just plain terrible doesn't help SEED's rep).

If you want a realistic mecha show about war, you should be watching FLAG or Dougram instead of Gundam.

Though FLAG can be a chore to watch due to its gimmick.

[robersora]

...

Most of your points don't only seem valid, but also perfectly reasonable!

Haruhi wasn't a clever show.

The LN was certainly not, the way it was adapted is a different story.

Stardust Crusaders is far too repetitive and formulaic in comparison to the previous two parts of Jojo.

I've heard that from many people. I've only recently started with Jojo's Diamond, which is breathtaking.

.It is pretty darn terrible and does contribute to the rampant problems of child prostitution and human trafficking in Japan..

It this claim backed up by data, or are you just assuming? I could equally propose the idea that it alleviates the problem, in providing people with pedophile tendencies a safe way to act their sexual desires out.

Reconguista in G is worth watching despite the pacing issues. It has an interesting setting as well as some the best animation and most charming characters in the franchise. Mask is the most interesting "char clone" in the franchise, more so than even Char himself.

It's beautiful looking, and the premise is fascinating. But the way its directed and written just gives me a headache. It's great for conveying chaos in chaotic scenes, but otherwise it's just tiring to watch.

[Reichu]

It is absurd to automatically assume a sub has a better translation than a dub.

The sub, at least, has the advantage of putting original language and translation side-by-side, so some of us can actually get a sense of how bad the translation is while we're watching the anime. With a dub, you have absolutely no idea, since the Japanese is totally wiped out.

The overly literal translations often preferred by the community can be disastrous as language isn't that simple and isn't an exact science. In fact, the tendency towards these is often BECAUSE the translators are often amateurs with limited experience and often little actual knowledge of Japanese as a language.

I will vouche for the general accuracy of this sentiment.

I've matured past the point of "preferring" overly literal translations, but, alas, my skill level often lags far behind. This can give people the wrong idea when one is the only person to attempt to translate a particular thing. You get castigated offhandedly for doing a bad job, and none of the castigators bother to directly offer up all this expertise they seem to be sitting on. How odd...

[cunning linguist]

Elfen Lied is pretentious garbage. It uses misery porn to give itself the illusion of depth, when really it has nothing to say other than the basic "humans are bad, guise". The characters are hollow and their only traits are that they're either mistreated or evil. X-men 3 had a better story about prejudice. It's just an excuse to make more sad moeblobs that otaku can fantasize about saving.

Also, dubs are better when the translations are looser. Japanese, when directly and literally translated to English, can often sound awkward and stilted, with idioms English speakers wouldn't understand, simply because it's a different language with different rules. I prefer it when dubbers translate for the meaning of the lines rather than linguistic exactness. It just flows better in English that way.

[robersora]

^
Sorry to extinguish your passion, but none of these are controversial views in the slightest.
Except for the fact, that most American Anime dubs sound stilted and overacted, because many Japanese originals are as well. You just don't notice it, because you don't understand the language.

[El Squibbonator]

^
Agreed. I'm pretty sure most of us agreed by now that Elfen Lied is garbage.

[Bagheera]

Elfen Lied is pretentious garbage.

No, you just haven't read the manga.

[cunning linguist]

No, you just haven't read the manga.

Would rather watch 12 episodes of garbage than read 400 pages of it, fam. Pretty damning of an anime that you need to read the manga for it to be good.

Eh, I think not liking EL is kinda controversial outside of here. People on deviantart (pleb central) for example would crucify me if I didn't call it a masterpiece.

If you want to hear a really unpopular opinion, I think KyoAni is a crock of shit.

[NONAME]

I find Code Geass to be extremely, extremely, extremely overrated. I think it's easily the worst anime I've ever seen. And I hate Death Note too, but it was Ok at first... then it goes really shitty, in my opinion.

I think I'm going to watch Elfen Lied again. I remember that it was interesting at some points, but overrated.

[Bagheera]

Would rather watch 12 episodes of garbage than read 400 pages of it, fam. Pretty damning of an anime that you need to read the manga for it to be good.

No, that's pretty much par for the course.

Me, I'd rather read a good work than watch a bad one, and I'd rather I knew what I was talking about before posting my opinions for all the world to see, but that's just me.

If you want to hear a really unpopular opinion, I think KyoAni is a crock of shit.

Unpopular because it's wrong, at least as far as technique goes (content's another matter).

I find Code Geass to be extremely, extremely, extremely overrated. I think it's easily the worst anime I've ever seen. And I hate Death Note too, but it was Ok at first... then it goes really shitty, in my opinion.

Both of those might be controversial, but they're quite correct IMO.

[cunning linguist]

No, that's pretty much par for the course.

Me, I'd rather read a good work than watch a bad one, and I'd rather I knew what I was talking about before posting my opinions for all the world to see, but that's just me.



Unpopular because it's wrong, at least as far as technique goes (content's another matter).

No, I meant I don't want to read 400 pages of shit, if the manga is anything like the anime. Is it any better? If it is, then the anime must've absolutely butchered it.

KyoAni does good animation, so they're quite competent from a technical POV, definitely. Too bad they waste it on vapid otaku pandering.

[pwhodges]

I guess I'm the one with the controversial opinion for once, because I like the Elfen Lied anime. Of course, like so many anime, it was made before the manga was complete, so the ending is not as fully worked out, but they made what they had work for me, and without writing a different story (as happened in FMA (2003)).

But then, I do tend to be rather accepting, because I like to try to work out and understand what was in the mind of the creator(s) of a work rather than simply seeing if it fits into a pre-existing slot in my brain and rejecting it if it doesn't. That way life continues to get more interesting rather than becoming boring as fewer and fewer things meet my preconceptions over time.

Anyway, if you dislike Elfen Lied that much, I can imagine just how much you'll hate Pupa!

[chazthesilencer]

You are not obligated to watch every anime that airs.

This is controversial? Who thinks otherwise?

You casual scum, you.

My Little monster is one of the worst anime and most disturbing anime I have ever seen in my entire life and you couldn't pay me to watch it again.

This one's peculiar. I don't even know where you're coming from here.

The show Demolition D+ gave a resounding ”yeah, sure” to watch? This will need expansion, WANTY.

[Bagheera]

The show Demolition D+ gave a resounding ”yeah, sure” to watch? This will need expansion, WANTY.

Review is accurate on all counts, proceed at your leisure.

[robersora]

Too bad they waste it on vapid otaku pandering.

I beg to differ. Free! was pandering very much to fujoshi, instead. ‎( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[GAP]

It seems that you need to be a film and/or humanities major in order to understand Monogatari and Tatami Galaxy....and I am not either.

[cunning linguist]

I beg to differ. Free! was pandering very much to fujoshi, instead. ‎( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

+1 for craftiness

[Gendo'sPapa]

Monogatari is a great series but that shows greatest strengths are also its biggest weaknesses. The overly long-winded & rambling writing works when it works and when it doesn't things draaaaaaaaaaaaag.

Basically when the show deals with Hitagi, Hanekawa, Kanbaru, & especially Nadeko & Kaiki it soars.

When it deals with the leads sisters, that pigtailed girl or that goddamn awful vampire it's really bad.

[GAP]

Agreed. I seem to have a love/hate relationship with Monogatari. For one thing I love the visuals, dialogue and characters but I hate it for the same reason. I really wish that it wasn't just about talking about tropes being used and general circlejerking although I do a similar all the time.