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That's just like asking, "WHY ANNO, WHY?" To every aspect of Evangelion that we don't get. And the answer is: "THAT'S LIFE! IT JUST IS! DEAL WITH IT!" XD
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Sephiroth: "Do you miss the Light?"
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Sephiroth: "Too close to the brightness, and you may get scorched."
Golbz:.............
Golbez: Your loss can strengthen you.
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Sephiroth: "Do you miss the Light?"
Golbez: "Hmph...I merely have duties to fulfill."
Sephiroth: "Too close to the brightness, and you may get scorched."
Golbz:.............
Golbez: Your loss can strengthen you.
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I actually like how that title looks and what it might suggest beyond weird loop theories. Sure, it’s kinda weird to have to type. But whatever. Just type “FINAL” like we always have been. (I generally avoid typing 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 if I can anyway. I prefer to type them as Jo, Ha, and Q. I’ll do the same for 3.0+1.0, calling it “FINAL” instead. It’s much simpler that way.)
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We could call it 4.0, as well-- but we've been calling it FINAL for long enough now that it seems the natural thing to do.
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The reason for the weird title is the one I posted earlier - the final act of a Japanese drama ends with a "resultant" of what comes before it. "Jo" is the introduction, "Ha" extends and elaborates upon the introduction and sets up the great big change, "Kyu" sets up the shock and tragedy of change, and talks about the pathos of things, while the ending (The "Ketsu" in "Kishotenketsu", the alternate four-part system of Chinese/Japanese drama) is the resultant of the beginning and the change. Reading even Wikipedia's pages on Jo-ha-kyu and Kishotenketsu shows the rationale behind it all.
As for me, I'd just call it "Final" - not because it's accurate, but because I'm quite used to it, and the meaning is already understood.
As for me, I'd just call it "Final" - not because it's accurate, but because I'm quite used to it, and the meaning is already understood.
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So like calling NTE Rebuild, then?
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The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
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The difference being that we, as a forum, refer to our forums and subforums as relating to "Rebuild of Evangelion". It gets the google results, which is why we haven't changed it even though it's technically incorrect. We now have a title for the fourth film, but we're calling it FINAL for other reasons (in this case, because it's easier. Who wants to type out 1.0+3.0 every time they want to mention it?)
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Apophenia. Noun. The tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things.
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The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
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Much like calling NTE Rebuild, yes, but like Freaky noted, Final is actually more accurate. (And as Guy Nacks pointed out, typing 3.0 + 1.0 repeatedly gets annoying). It's still possible that "Final" and ":||" will find use for something at this stage.
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Yeah, as far as calling certain sub forums what they need to be called in order to get views, we’re not 100% what will generate more clicks for “FINAL” until the movie gets and official full title. Right now we only have the music symbol, the numeric symbol, and “FINAL” as these signifiers, and we’re not sure beyond that what will be officially complete and what will generate more clicks.
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I think it's either going to be FINAL or, oddly enough, 4.0.
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The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
- UrsusArctos
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Alternatively, the movie itself will be called 3.0 + 1.0 and "Final" and ":||" may be recycled for something else, like the Blu-ray release. Freaky is right about getting more views - with 3.0 and 1.0 generating enough hits on their own, calling the movie "3.0+1.0" will mess up searching for it nicely and cause a ton of confusion. Given the choice, I certainly wouldn't name either this subforum or the wiki page "3.0+1.0".
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Personally, the subtitle 3.0+1.0 doesn't allude to any form of popular "loop theories" for me; it's literally just an alternate way of depicting previous titles "4.0" and ":ll". With the musical repeat-ending bar sign signifying revisiting the beginning (first act) once more after finishing the piece before ending for good. Sort of like the impression Anno gives us of the beginning and the end being the same; when I say this I think of the vibe we get from the first and last Quantun Rei scenes though.
Also, I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere on this forum before but a popular theory on the title going around the internet right now says 3.0 + 1.0 = Kyu + Jo = KyuJo. Apparently Kyujo denotes a romaji for 救助 which is the kanji for "salvation" or "assisting". I'm not adept at all in Japanese so if someone could shed insight on this then that would be appreciated.
Just to stay on topic with the thread though, I wanna say I'm happy with the little bit of info Anno gave us with this additional title. Whether it's official or not, there's a ton that can be interpreted from it given us. Haha.
Also, I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere on this forum before but a popular theory on the title going around the internet right now says 3.0 + 1.0 = Kyu + Jo = KyuJo. Apparently Kyujo denotes a romaji for 救助 which is the kanji for "salvation" or "assisting". I'm not adept at all in Japanese so if someone could shed insight on this then that would be appreciated.
Just to stay on topic with the thread though, I wanna say I'm happy with the little bit of info Anno gave us with this additional title. Whether it's official or not, there's a ton that can be interpreted from it given us. Haha.
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I'm just gonna post this here, although what I'm about to say may make a new topic on it's own.
I was thinking about the new title for the fourth movie "Evangelion "1.0+3.0" and I have a idea as to why it is named this. My theory is that the final movie will be two parts a lot like End of Evangelion.
Now anyone can put whatever they think these two parts are going to show, but my idea was that the first part would start off right after 2.0 and this part would cover the 14 year gap in between. This would answer many of the questions including what happened to Kaji? Was there a bigger 3rd Impact after Shinji was trapped? Why did Mark 06 become Autonomous? How'd Asuka react to everything that happen after she woke up, and also how long after N3I did she wake up? How was the Wunder built? How was Gendo's plan revealed? How and When did they launch Unit 01 into space? Basically it would answer some or most of the questions left by 3.0. This would be essentially the Flashback sequence that most want.
Now the second part of 3.0+1.0 would be the actual final end of the rebuild series. This part I cannot speculate on nearly as much since there is a great deal that we don't know about post Q's plot. The only thing I will say is that somehow, and someway Shinji will find hope as stated in the preview for 3.0+1.0/4.0/Final.
Now I already see people asking questions about this theory, like about run-time, and because we got nothing for the new preview it must mean that the last movie is in early production! My reasoning behind this is first, I don't believe they got rid of a lot of the original Q plot and they are going to change it to make it fit in. Secondly it has almost been two years since Q has been release, and I don't think in a two year time-frame they are only in early production. In fact considering how short Q was compared to Jo and Ha I think they have been working on the final movie since before Q, even if then they where only in the beginning stages. Also a flash back sequence would allow the movie to reveal information with the audience getting one huge info dump. Now with run time I could see 3.0+1.0 being 4 hours, 2 for part 1, and 2 for part 2.
It's pretty late at night for me, and I may have not communicated some of this in the best way, but I want to hear someone else's thoughts on this.
I was thinking about the new title for the fourth movie "Evangelion "1.0+3.0" and I have a idea as to why it is named this. My theory is that the final movie will be two parts a lot like End of Evangelion.
Now anyone can put whatever they think these two parts are going to show, but my idea was that the first part would start off right after 2.0 and this part would cover the 14 year gap in between. This would answer many of the questions including what happened to Kaji? Was there a bigger 3rd Impact after Shinji was trapped? Why did Mark 06 become Autonomous? How'd Asuka react to everything that happen after she woke up, and also how long after N3I did she wake up? How was the Wunder built? How was Gendo's plan revealed? How and When did they launch Unit 01 into space? Basically it would answer some or most of the questions left by 3.0. This would be essentially the Flashback sequence that most want.
Now the second part of 3.0+1.0 would be the actual final end of the rebuild series. This part I cannot speculate on nearly as much since there is a great deal that we don't know about post Q's plot. The only thing I will say is that somehow, and someway Shinji will find hope as stated in the preview for 3.0+1.0/4.0/Final.
Now I already see people asking questions about this theory, like about run-time, and because we got nothing for the new preview it must mean that the last movie is in early production! My reasoning behind this is first, I don't believe they got rid of a lot of the original Q plot and they are going to change it to make it fit in. Secondly it has almost been two years since Q has been release, and I don't think in a two year time-frame they are only in early production. In fact considering how short Q was compared to Jo and Ha I think they have been working on the final movie since before Q, even if then they where only in the beginning stages. Also a flash back sequence would allow the movie to reveal information with the audience getting one huge info dump. Now with run time I could see 3.0+1.0 being 4 hours, 2 for part 1, and 2 for part 2.
It's pretty late at night for me, and I may have not communicated some of this in the best way, but I want to hear someone else's thoughts on this.
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Marketing wise the name 3.0 + 1.0 sucks even though i personally like it. Most people will get confused and assume that this is not a sequel but merely something like an expansion. Remember not all people are browsing internet to find more about the movies or reading forums.
Of course the movie will do fine with the sales but i am pretty sure that a simple 4.0 or FINAL would avoid any confusion.
Of course the movie will do fine with the sales but i am pretty sure that a simple 4.0 or FINAL would avoid any confusion.
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Evafan has put together another thing at the bottom has a list of potential HAPPENING dates
http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3264.html
October 3rd = Eva Store reopening so that might be something
EDIT: The rest we already potentially hyped about but might include it anyway
October = Anno thing at Tokyo film fest
November = Last manga volume
2015 = New Year's card/20th anniversary maybe
January = Universal Studio Japan shenanigans
http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3264.html
October 3rd = Eva Store reopening so that might be something
EDIT: The rest we already potentially hyped about but might include it anyway
October = Anno thing at Tokyo film fest
November = Last manga volume
2015 = New Year's card/20th anniversary maybe
January = Universal Studio Japan shenanigans
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