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So... reuploaded the picturs to imageshack.us. I hope that´s working now better.
Still anything to improve? What do you think about the rebuild-thingy? :P
And 2/3 questions.
The Key of Nebukadnezar. Should I add that it could be Adam?
The chalk-line in 1.11... what is this supposed to be?
I also want to expand the NERV part. What bases do we know now incl. location?
And should I add that picture of Unit 04? From that commercial... since it´s not canon... your opinion?
Still anything to improve? What do you think about the rebuild-thingy? :P
And 2/3 questions.
The Key of Nebukadnezar. Should I add that it could be Adam?
The chalk-line in 1.11... what is this supposed to be?
I also want to expand the NERV part. What bases do we know now incl. location?
And should I add that picture of Unit 04? From that commercial... since it´s not canon... your opinion?
I don't think so. That certainly seems like a reasonable theory but I wouldn't call it something we can safely assume to be true.
We actually have no idea - before 2.22 there was talk about how it was the 3rd Angel or something, but aside from the sequel theory banging on about how it's clearly an MP Eva or something, it has yet to be satisfactorily explained or even referred to. I really hope Anno doesn't forget about it.
Bethany Base is in Russia somewhere, but crewed by Americans.
Tabgha Base is on/low-orbiting the moon, but unless I'm mistaken I think that's a Seele base and not really under NERV's jurisdiction.
Golgotha Base is apparently the name for NERV HQ in Rebuild...or Matsushiro, maybe? I'm not really clear on that.
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skikes: Eva-04 and Kaworu is from one of the (many, there are like 7 of them ) Pachinko games: http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=5952
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qu4d: Personally, I don't think it should be "included" in anything since it's not really canon for the new films. My two cents.
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Re: q´s "this is (not) just a summary" thread +reb
Which is kinda the answer. It´s - how surprising - really a rebuild. Not a rebuild of Anime/Manga. It´s a rebuild of the Universe. Right inside the canon. What happened in NGE can´t be directly applied to NME or the Manga, but I´d say it´s all still in the same universe. Like billions of years ago there was the Big Bang. And since that moment, the universe expands and expands... but what was before the Big Bang? What if all the mass that exploded shrunk together before that? And the universe which is expanding will, at some point in the future - in a few billion years, shrink again to one single point and there wil be another Big Bang and it´s happening over and over and over again. But everytime it´s a bit different.
This is a very interesting theory, I think. The most interesting I've heard so far. If that's the explanation for Kaworu's dialogue in the story, I'd rather like it, although I'd hope they'd do something interesting with it.
I´m gonna add the locations later today... but one questions before I do that.
Are we safe to assume the following? So would it be apply what we know from NGE to NME in this case?
The Black Moon
The Black Moon was the egg of Lilith, which landed on the earth 4 billion years ago causing the first impact. Lilith remained there, even when the Geofront was build inside the moon.
Or would that be too much? Reichu? SSD? You have better insight How would you write the description?
Are we safe to assume the following? So would it be apply what we know from NGE to NME in this case?
The Black Moon
The Black Moon was the egg of Lilith, which landed on the earth 4 billion years ago causing the first impact. Lilith remained there, even when the Geofront was build inside the moon.
Or would that be too much? Reichu? SSD? You have better insight How would you write the description?
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Well, since none of that has been mentioned in Rebuild yet, we can't say for certain any of that is correct. We only know it as "the Geofront" at the moment.
Assumptions are always bad when dealing with rebuild, that's basically what I've been told by Reichu a few times.
Assumptions are always bad when dealing with rebuild, that's basically what I've been told by Reichu a few times.
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Until the name gets mentioned, or at least strongly suggested - I'd say leave it out. We don't really know what's up with the Geofront right now (especially since 2I apparently featured a Black Moon of its own) and all the weird shit Shinji sees in descending to Terminal Dogma (or is it Central Dogma now? Anno, quit changing the fucking names) doesn't help matters.
Although, come to think of it, Terminal Dogma in NGE was weirder than fuck also. A giant hole in a ceiling covered in pink spatterpaint drops you into a sea of LCL filled with sharp spikes of ice or something that never appear in any other cut...wow, when I say it like that it seems like a really obvious metaphor for birth.
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Ha, i just wrote about that :P The DVD-booklet says that it´s located at the former North Pole.
So I would add the following...
Evangelion construction sites
NERV branch 01 - Golgatha
The first branch is also the main NERV headquarter. It´s located in Japan and run directly by NERV.
Construction site of Evangelion 00 and 01
NERV branch 02 - name unknown
The second branch is located in the USA and run by the american division of NERV.
Construction site of Evangelion 03 and 04
NERV branch 0X - Bethania
Bethania is located at the former North Pole and run by the european division of NERV.
Construction site of Evangelion 05.
NERV branch 0X - name unknown
Located in Germany.
Construction site of Evangelion 02.
SEELEs secret base - Tabgha
Tabgha is located on the moon and directly run by SEELE.
Construction site of Evangelion 06.
Any mistakes? Something to add?
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Regarding matters of the Geofront, my thoughts are with Faz's:
Reichu has mentioned the same to me before too. (Mainly because I personally tend to assume Rei is still Lilith. Which yes, nothing has been said yet, but she does still have hell train/quantum physics wackiness going on. Kaworu I assume he's still Adam in some form--or at least an Angel--given the back of his entry plug having wings and his general...Kaworu-ness so far.)
By the way, NERV branch 02 and Eva-04 blowing up wasn't said or visually implied to have occurred in Nevada like in NGE?
And has anybody been adding this information onto the wiki yet? I haven't been able to find the time for it, but I do think it's all excellent information that should go somewhere... (There should be "in other media" pages for things like Nerv's branches, Angels, Eva and etc if they don't have such already.)
Reichu has mentioned the same to me before too. (Mainly because I personally tend to assume Rei is still Lilith. Which yes, nothing has been said yet, but she does still have hell train/quantum physics wackiness going on. Kaworu I assume he's still Adam in some form--or at least an Angel--given the back of his entry plug having wings and his general...Kaworu-ness so far.)
By the way, NERV branch 02 and Eva-04 blowing up wasn't said or visually implied to have occurred in Nevada like in NGE?
And has anybody been adding this information onto the wiki yet? I haven't been able to find the time for it, but I do think it's all excellent information that should go somewhere... (There should be "in other media" pages for things like Nerv's branches, Angels, Eva and etc if they don't have such already.)
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qu4d wrote:I´m gonna add the locations later today... but one questions before I do that.
Are we safe to assume the following? So would it be apply what we know from NGE to NME in this case?
The Black Moon
The Black Moon was the egg of Lilith, which landed on the earth 4 billion years ago causing the first impact. Lilith remained there, even when the Geofront was build inside the moon.
Lilith's moon really looks like an oversized ovum this time around. =X
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