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Postby shinhito » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:54 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:I'm unemployed, I have no space for any new stuff, and I don't have a BD drive anyway. The timing on these box sets couldn't be much worse for me. Sucks being a hardcore fan of 15 years and knowing that the right decision is to totally forget about owning the shiny new thing for the foreseeable future.


If I could I would give you all the Evangelion, Reichu! :(

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Postby svenge » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:36 am

View Original PostAdaminator1 wrote:Are the Rebuild BD's still in print? Have they ever been out of print for a long period of time?


All the Japanese home video releases of Rebuild are in print, except for the 2-DVD Limited Edition of Eva 1.01 from back in 2008. That said, the first-pressing bonuses for each release (e.g. film-strips and soundtracks) are long gone from the primary market.

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:By the way, svenge, I wanted to read up on your site about the BD/DVD box info you added, but the account's been suspended??


View Original Postshinhito wrote:And yeah, svenge I hope everythings okay! I love your site! Such an excellent resource!


Sorry about the site downtime, guys. I use a free webhost (x10hosting) for my Compendium, and their rules are if I don't log into their control panel monthly then they suspend my account. Anyhow, I just now got the site back online so feel free to take a look at it.

I will be updating the Blu-ray and "Archives of Evangelion" pages soon after its release, as I couldn't make any sense out of some of the bonuses listed. Google Translate can only do so much, and the context of any new features that weren't on the 2003 DVD box isn't exactly clear to me.

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Postby Rei IV » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:11 pm

If I'm lucky, the money left over of my book allowance from university will be enough to purchase the Blu-ray set. If successful, I'll have the series complete (at the moment).
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:47 pm

Ahh, no worries, Svenge. My translated info about the BD/DVD box contents (near the start of the thread) isn't the info you're looking for? You mean the bonuses different stores/sites carry, right?

Reichu, I'm unemployed/self-employed myself, so I feel your pain about neglecting shiny Eva. One of the various reasons I have to just wait for a U.S. release, but I'm so scared it'll be (pardon my language) fucked up.

My 2 favorite series, Eva and Sailor Moon, always seem to invite Stateside company screw ups. :asuka_miffed: Really pisses me off.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:53 pm

New post on the official Eva site:
http://extr.b-ch.com/cgi-bin/eva_news/official/rss_det.cgi?news_c=11383&newsctg_c=1001

There are going to be theatrical screenings in Shinjuku Toho cinemas on the 28th and 29th. I see Death and Rebirth on the 28th and End of Eva on the 29th, and it looks like maybe some episodes too?

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:30 pm

They look like marathon screenings.

The 28th event starts at 21:30 and goes until 5am on the 29th
Eps 1-13
Death

29th you have 14-26 and EoE likewise starting 21:30 and going until 5am the next morning.
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Postby shinhito » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:36 pm

I got the September edition of Newtype! Pictures/scans of the Blu-Ray restore process are incoming!

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:09 pm

Ooh, can't wait ^_^
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Postby shinhito » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:40 pm

There were just these two pages about the Blu-ray/DVD Restoration process.

Hopefully someone with better Japanese skills than I obtain can decipher this.

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[s]EDIT: I just realized that I uploaded the smaller resized version. More legible full sized scan to follow in a moment! Sorry![/s]

The full sized scan has now been updated on this post! Good luck!

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:43 pm

Thanks! Posted link onto EGF Twitter :yui_grin: That seems more on the technical side of things, so I don't think I could translate, but hopefully somebody could give us a basic rundown about the process!
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Postby shinhito » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:21 pm

Yeah it is quite technical. I can translate some of it.

In the middle of the two pages there's that aqua/teal colored disc with a aqua blue caption. The caption says... "これが「新世紀エヴァンゲリオンげ劇場版 シト新生」のフィルムロール。時をこえて今、Blu-Rayとしてよみがえる。

Which I would translate as... "This is Shin Seiki Evangelion Theatrical Edition Death and Rebirth's film roll. Beyond its time it is now revived as Blu-Ray."

The next caption to the left of film running through a telecine machine says... "16mmと35mm、2つのサイズのフィルムロール対応したテレシネ機。リアルタイムにフィルムの映像を再生することが可能。

Which I would translate as... "The two 16mm and 35mm corresponding size telecine machines. It can reproduce the image from the film in real time."

The following caption next to the photo of a man working at a desk says... "デジタルカラーコレクションを操作する金田。実際には光の影響を受けないよう、照明を落とした状態で作業を行なう。

Which means... "Kaneda (dude at the desk) is manipulating the digital color correction settings. This work is affected by the ambient light, so he usually works in dimmed lighting conditions."

I think they are just noting that because in the picture all the lights are on, but when you do color correcting you primarily work in a color neutral lighting workspace.

I'm sure the 'juicy' stuff is in the interview with the technical staff that is placed about in the middle horizontally and vertically of the two pages. The interview starts with the bold text 技術的に”できない”なんて言わない ソニーPCL技術スタッフインタビュー.

Anyway, that's all I can do for now. There's a lot there!

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Postby Blue Three » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:26 am

Regarding the DVD box, what I hadn't quite realized was that "as it was shown on TV" apparently means that there's even going to be the "This program is presented by ~~" announcements that usually sandwich commercial breaks.

Here's most of the article.

SONY PCL started with the project around 2010 and at the time they weren't decided on what type of Telecine process should be employed. While the opening of the anime is on 35mm film, the rest of the show is on 16mm. It's easy to make it grainy so they tried out various mastering techniques that come after Telecine. SONY PCL got new equipment right around the time of the Blu-ray box release announcement, so when they started working in earnest on the remastering process, they used a process newer and better-suited than the one they had considered to work with originally.

They had a detailed list of fixes/retouches done by King Records for the DVD release in 2003, so they started comparing the DVD master and film, visually and on a data level. Naturally they found many other cuts they felt were in need of amendment, so in the end there's about 600 places where SONY PCL fixed the picture - adding to the fact that they had to re-do the previous fixes because they were working with a new master.

Work on Eva took about ten times as long as on other series.
Color correction consumed about 40 hours per episode. The Telecine equipment was different from the one used for the 2003 DVD master, so it was difficult to have the colors be entirely identical. "Then again that's what we were trying to produce. 2-3 years prior we would have given up due to technical limitation and now there's hurdles of time and cost. Yet as an engineer you don't really want to say that something's not possible, especially when you know that it can technically be done. So ultimately it was a question of spending a whole lot of time on it".

"It's a really detailed anime, so there were many things that had to be done by hand. Some parts we did five times over. Things like newspaper articles really add to the setting and they should be much more readable this time around."

Then some comments about the extras, but nothing particularly new.

An up-converting technique called "Real Scaling for HD" was used on Episode 16.

What had to be checked was whether the footage available to them was identical to what had been on-air in 1995. Luckily one of their staff members had VHS tapes of the original TV Tokyo broadcast, even including commercials. What's on the DVD Box is everything except the commercials. Even the breaks announcing the show's presenters are there.
Whether it be LD, VHS or DVD, many retakes were done for previous releases. What you can see on the upcoming DVD is something about as close to the original broadcast as it's going to get.
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Postby robersora » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:16 am

^
Thank you very much, very informative! Well, if they really did spend this much time working on the remaster, I await nothing short of a phenomenal picture quality.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:57 am

View Original PostBlue Three wrote: It's easy to make it grainy so they tried out various mastering techniques that come after Telecine.

Ugh, but the grain is inherent to the film, you can't remove it without removing detail. Mildly worrying, but at least there's no mention of Q-TEC thankfully.
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Postby Dima » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:07 am

Thank you so much shinhito for the scans and Blue Three for the translation!

BTW anyone can tell me which Sony model is the TV/Monitor that appears in the scans?
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:23 am

OLOLOLOLOLOLO

They just put the interview online:

http://route2015.evastore.jp/interview/05/
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Postby robersora » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:52 am

^
Which means, we hopefully will get a real translation soon :)
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Postby Blue Three » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:13 am

Sure does sound like they got a team that cares for the show. Then again I guess you could make everything sound good. I'll believe it when I see it. This is really just an extended ad.

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Postby kuro hazama » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:00 am

Just a couple more days!

Maybe this can entertain you a little while the wait goes on.

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This is a recording of the broadcast some days ago on NTV that showed Until you come to me, Episodes 1, 9, and 24, Evangelion AO Confidential, and a preorder show for the BD box that can serve as a little sneak peak at how it may look(the broadcast wasnt full HD) including a couple of moments from the original Death (really liked how grainy this one looked).

I hope you enjoy it.
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Postby Dima » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:12 am

View Original Postkuro hazama wrote:Just a couple more days!

Maybe this can entertain you a little while the wait goes on.

Redacted


If the footage from the ending is a preview for the BD then it looks really bad.

Honestly it doesn't look any better than any version out there.

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