Just rewatched some of NGE, including the episode Magma Diver and was reminded of something that bugged me the first time I watched it and never had explained.
Sandalphon rips Nigouki's coolant supply cables just before it disintegrates, the pressure and heat start crushed the D-Type equipment on Nigouki, then Shinji jumps in and rescues Asuka. How did he manage this? Nigouki was given the D-Type equipment, Shogouki wasn't, yet it doesn't appear it sustained any damage at all from jumping into the magma (you can see that none of it is being crushed from pressure or cooked or anything). Does anyone have an explanation?
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There's no indication that EVA-01 got out "unscathed", I for one believe the armor probably melted a bit and needed to be replaced in some areas. 8)
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... As I said, we don't see EVA-01 after the battle for the length of the episode, so we don't actually know if it was damaged or not. In otherwords, you could be claiming 'continuity error' where we are just left to fill in the blanks by ourselves. 8)
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CitizenGeek wrote:Mr. Tines wrote:Plot armour.
Literally.
But, there's no signs of any extra armour, is there?
He said PLOT armor, as in a plot device. Not literal armor.
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We all know just how damn tough an Eva actually is, don't we? The fact is that Nigoki was approaching the surface where the pressure was much lower, so Eva-01 could jump in without serious enough danger to be destroyed.
Like Alaska Slim says, we don't know for sure if the Eva was damaged, or if any of the armor had to undergo replacement for the damage done. By that time, the real danger was having the line break and Asuka falling all the way into a region where the temperature and pressure would kill her.
Like Alaska Slim says, we don't know for sure if the Eva was damaged, or if any of the armor had to undergo replacement for the damage done. By that time, the real danger was having the line break and Asuka falling all the way into a region where the temperature and pressure would kill her.
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Nothing, I'm just acknowledging a possibility.
The armor need not have been damaged at all, because both Evas are intact when Israfel goes boom under their feet and Eva-02 isn't even scratched by Matariel's acid. (And both are close to the surface anyway)
It could have been slightly damaged and repaired off-screen, or it could have been completely intact.
In any case, whether or not the armor was damaged is irrelevant.
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The armor need not have been damaged at all, because both Evas are intact when Israfel goes boom under their feet and Eva-02 isn't even scratched by Matariel's acid. (And both are close to the surface anyway)
It could have been slightly damaged and repaired off-screen, or it could have been completely intact.
In any case, whether or not the armor was damaged is irrelevant.
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Magma Diver makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It's by far my most hated episode in the entire series. There's no way the "D-type" equipment could shield the EVA from lava, let alone the support cables themselves withstanding the lava, let alone Unit 01 diving into the lava without any armor whatsoever to save Asuka, which defeats the purpose of the D-type equipment itself.
My suggestion is, if something doesn't make any sense in this episode, forget about it. NOTHING in this episode makes any sense.
If there's any episode I want dropped from rebuild, it's this one.
My suggestion is, if something doesn't make any sense in this episode, forget about it. NOTHING in this episode makes any sense.
If there's any episode I want dropped from rebuild, it's this one.
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