Was Seele aware of the angel threat after 2I?

Dave · Postby **Dave** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:17 pm

Did Seele know that Sachiel - Tabris would rise to challenge humanity? The only reason I doubt this is because of the chinese guy's line to Gendou on board the airplane in episode 7. The line is : "Yes, they use to think there were no more angels." This obviously implies that Seele was aware of Adam and Lilith sometime before Sachiel arrived, but did they know about the others? I assume the dead sea scrolls would mention them, but perhaps they did not recover the dead sea scrolls until after Sachiel's attack? I have a possible answer to my own question, but I don't like it. Therefore, I would like to see if anyone else can come up with a good explanation.

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:22 pm

they knew everything about the angels fron the dead sea scrolls
except a few details like tabris and leilel

Phaze · Postby **Phaze** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:23 pm

Three questions in 1 minute, did you just have some sort of epiphany?

Dave wrote:Did Seele know that Sachiel - Tabris would rise to challenge humanity? The only reason I doubt this is because of the chinese guy's line to Gendou on board the airplane in episode 7. The line is : "Yes, they use to think there were no more angels." This obviously implies that Seele was aware of Adam and Lilith sometime before Sachiel arrived, but did they know about the others? I assume the dead sea scrolls would mention them, but perhaps they did not recover the dead sea scrolls until after Sachiel's attack? I have a possible answer to my own question, but I don't like it. Therefore, I would like to see if anyone else can come up with a good explanation.

The man did not specifically state when "they used to" was, so it could have been any time between before Eva's prodution, to during Sachiel's attack, most likely, from finding the Dead Sea Scrolls. Why don't you like your answer?

coff · Postby **coff** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:27 pm

When they found the Dead Sea Scrolls, they knew. Maybe a few of them were skeptical for awhile, but that changed.

Dave · Postby **Dave** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:30 pm

So when exactly did they find the dead sea scrolls?

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:37 pm

some time before the Second Impact i think, not sure though

Dave · Postby **Dave** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:40 pm

If they found the dead sea scrolls 'somtime before second impact', why would they ever believe there were no more angels? I was under the impression that that chinese dude was referring to their beliefs before Sachiel attacked.

Phaze · Postby **Phaze** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:44 pm

Keep this in mind: The Evas would never have been created if SEELE hadn't known that the angels were still a threat to their plans. True, the Evas were a staple to Third Impact, but there were still other ways that SEELE could have achieved their goals. Without Eva.

Dave · Postby **Dave** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:47 pm

Excellent point Phaze. However, that only makes that line even less comprehensible. Somebody, help us!

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:00 pm

Phaze wrote:Keep this in mind: The Evas would never have been created if SEELE hadn't known that the angels were still a threat to their plans. True, the Evas were a staple to Third Impact, but there were still other ways that SEELE could have achieved their goals. Without Eva.

yes, with lilth and adam joining as one. the eva's would just help control the third impact, they have nothing to do with the process of it other than that

YouTube · Postby **Reichu** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:12 am

Is it possible that the "they" the Chinese man was referring to refers to people who are not in cahoots with what is written in the Dead Sea Scrolls? It's actually possible that "they" isn't even mentioned at all in his statement, and it's just a generalized, "It's been said..." with no specification as to by whom, but I'm too lazy to check the line at the moment.

Dave · Postby **Dave** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:47 pm

He was referring to 'the commitee'.

YouTube · Postby **Reichu** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:20 pm

Dave wrote:He was referring to 'the commitee'.

The Committee apparently aren't the same thing as Seele itself (despite the fact that some of the committeemen are part of Seele). See scene 2 of the episode #02 commentary (in my sig) for more about this.

sadsadshinji · Postby **sadsadshinji** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:48 pm

perhaps they were refering to others? like the other nations that had participated in the building?

feliwood · Postby **feliwood** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:18 pm

I'm confused- are you saying that seele didn't know about Tabris/Kawrou? What about the deleted seen where he is talking to the monoliths and Misato sees him, or the line 'god help us, seele has sent us an angel'. I was under the impression that seele and kawrou were in cahoots.

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:42 pm

seele were the ones that sent him to nerv

aranami · Postby **aranami** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:48 pm

What about the U.N.? Nerv was funded by them so they had to know something about what they were paying for.

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:53 pm

all they knew is what lies Gendo fabricated for them, which he is very proficient at

sadsadshinji · Postby **sadsadshinji** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:17 pm

i am pretty sure they knew that the angels were coming (the 11th...it is too early, it is not as it was prophesized, etc...) and probably got the information from the dead sea scrolls. the chinese dude was probably referring to some other group aside from seele... as they obviously knew that the angels' coming was prophesized...

ChronoX · Postby **ChronoX** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:08 pm

the angels coming was in the dead sea scrolls. Seele interpreted them and had Gehirn and then NERV formed to defend against the angels and eventually initiate human instrumentality a.k.a. third impact

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