Reminds me of something the Greek philosopher Epicurus said:
"It is folly for a man to pray to the gods for that which he has the power to obtain himself."
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StratoSakuya...AF wrote:None; With the power he was given, Shinji could've chosen to abolish instrumentality. However, he could've used the power to change the world into a better place for everyone and himself without losing individuality. Instead of merging everyone into a single being, all he had to do was to create unbreakable bonds between people that would allow them to become independent of each other while still having each other to rely upon.
NemZ wrote:depends entirely on what version of instrumentality we're talking about here, but if my only choice is 'become a cell in the new god' or 'return to a completely fucked world to live out a short, pointless life' I'm taking up Seele's offer. Shinji's choice only makes sense when you don't fully understand what you're choosing between, and instead base it on some vague wish to just make all the bad things go away.
Even if individuality does die, instrumentality is something more than the entire human race putting a bullet through their brains. It's transcendental. Personally I find it sounds quite blissful.
StratoSakuya...AF wrote:None; With the power he was given, Shinji could've chosen to abolish instrumentality. However, he could've used the power to change the world into a better place for everyone and himself without losing individuality. Instead of merging everyone into a single being, all he had to do was to create unbreakable bonds between people that would allow them to become independent of each other while still having each other to rely upon.
Dream wrote:Also, to elaborate on what Xanderkh said, NGE has very strong themes of reality and fantasy and people's relationship to them, so i think it makes that in the end the protagonist and other characters renounce all the mystical props or help in the series (the Evas among them) to face life on their own.
But you won't know it because you don't exist as a person.
Merkaba wrote:Seele.
It seems atheists on this forum keep saying that "Death is a bad thing," and yet without Instrumentality, the soul would cease to exist. With Instrumentality, the consciousnesses (souls, whatever you want to label them as) will continue existing forever, as part of a god.
I'd take being part of an immortal god over ceasing to exist any day.
Merkaba wrote:Seele.
It seems atheists on this forum keep saying that "Death is a bad thing," and yet without Instrumentality, the soul would cease to exist. With Instrumentality, the consciousnesses (souls, whatever you want to label them as) will continue existing forever, as part of a god.
I'd take being part of an immortal god over ceasing to exist any day.
I guess I'd rather lose it now, if this was the one time I'd be able to become part of a god. Compared to eternity, my remaining years are just a flash in the pan anyway.
Beside that, what is irrational about seeing both options equal on one level (post-death immortality) and choosing the one with an added perk (being part of something bigger)?
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