The starting scene of Episode 25'- what's the use of it?

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Postby Eva Yojimbo » Sun May 13, 2007 12:18 pm

Executor wrote:Sailor Star Dust: That better be fucking mayonaise on Shinji's hand :P
'Twas a messy sneeze. Nothing more. ;)
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Postby sensei_juice » Sun May 13, 2007 5:01 pm

Back on topic:
Because EoE is when everything that's been bottled up comes rushing out. Rather literally in Shinji's case.
Also, because EoE is a fuck-you to the kind of fans who jerk off to Asuka (I think it was Eva Yojimbo who originally pointed this out in the Pretentiously Deep thread, although it may have been somebody else).
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Postby Eva Yojimbo » Sun May 13, 2007 5:24 pm

sensei_juice wrote:
Also, because EoE is a fuck-you to the kind of fans who jerk off to Asuka (I think it was Eva Yojimbo who originally pointed this out in the Pretentiously Deep thread, although it may have been somebody else).
I posted it on here, but it's been stated before. If only I could take credit for that idea. :P
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Postby Executor » Sun May 13, 2007 8:23 pm

Ironic that his name is sensei juice in a topic about Shinji greasing the ferret.

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Postby NAveryW » Sun May 13, 2007 8:55 pm

Executor wrote:Ironic that his name is sensei juice in a topic about Shinji greasing the ferret.

My goodness, there have to be more euphemisms for male masturbation than anything else in the universe.

In related news, http://www.jokecenter.com/jokes/Starwars/2250.htm
...I personally think #10 should be #1.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun May 13, 2007 9:04 pm

@ Brik, Smith & AEF (plus other people I'm forgetting, lol): Thanks for replying. ^_^ That (what the hell happened to happened to Asuka after her 24' suicede attempt as well as her reactions to Shinji) was bothering me for quite some time since I didn't get that.

NAveryW wrote:Sailor Star Dust, don't expect an answer if you're going into the final scene of EoE and Asuka's expression.

However, out of curiosity, since you are presumably female, how would you feel if you were in Asuka's situation?


Yup, I'm a girl. To be perfectly frank (as long as I can still be Stardust /bad joke), if it were somebody I had romantic/sexual feelings for, I wouldn't care. If it was somebody I didn't feel that way about, then I'd "probably feel disgusting".

I brought up the final scene only to show the connection between Shinji's crying in that and the first scene, but I think I see your point.

Anyway back on topic: As I mentioned in another thread (that I currently have no time to bring up my post from) I really don't see EoE OR Shinji's Faptastic Adventures in Boobieland (credit Reichu...tabun.) to be a fuck you to the fans.
But that's just my pov. *shrugs*
Speaking of which, I do agree with the general idea that Eva's a show that people will have different interpretations/viewpoints on, BUT I think there are certain things in the series that can seen in only one way, eg, those scenes when Anno is giving a specific message to the viewer. (Not that I can think of any of the top of my head except for the whole "lol prolonged isolation evidence in I Need You.")

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Postby Executor » Sun May 13, 2007 9:05 pm

And I'm ignored as usuall -_-.

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Postby TriLink » Sun May 13, 2007 9:11 pm

Although I'm not the biggest fan of watching dudes masturbate (but still a fan...wait, what?), the scene in Asuka's room really helped set the tone for the rest of the movie in my opinion. Up until that point, Shinji had done things he was really ashamed of to just about everyone except Asuka . Twas bout time she joined in on the fun, and what better way to join the pity party then to get spooged on by a guys with no balls.

NAveryW wrote:My goodness, there have to be more euphemisms for male masturbation than anything else in the universe.

Only because masturbation's the most popular pastime in the universe, narrowly edging out baseball. 8)

Executor wrote:And I'm ignored as usuall -_-.

Dude, someone just responded to you, like ten minutes ago. Considering what your comment was, I'd be content with that.
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Postby Executor » Sun May 13, 2007 9:14 pm

TriLink12 wrote:

Dude, someone just responded to you, like ten minutes ago. Considering what your comment was, I'd be content with that.

Dude, I was joking. Nothing more.

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Postby TriLink » Sun May 13, 2007 9:15 pm

Funny.
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Postby Executor » Sun May 13, 2007 9:17 pm

TriLink12 wrote:Funny.

Not really.
EDIT: Anyways, I declare that this topic become a punching bag for master of the bating jokes now. Because I can.

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Postby sensei_juice » Sun May 13, 2007 9:42 pm

Wait - do people actually think my name is a masturbation reference, or is that just Executor?
Anyway, to clear things up (since nobody appears to get the reference), Sensei Juice is a juice box who appears in Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo for about thirty seconds until somebody drinks him.
I love Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo. Arguably better than Excel Saga.
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Postby NAveryW » Sun May 13, 2007 9:57 pm

sensei_juice wrote:Sensei Juice is a juice box who appears in Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo for about thirty seconds until Bo-bobo pours him into a glass, discards the box, drinks the juice from the glass, and leaves the disembodied voice in the glass.

Fixed.
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Postby sensei_juice » Sun May 13, 2007 9:59 pm

Sounds about right - haven't watched that episode in quite a while.
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Postby anatrok » Sun May 13, 2007 11:40 pm

Bringing the Topic back....heh

i was just watching EOE with my little brother and he made me think of a reason for WHY this scene is in here, something that i don't think has been QUITE said yet...

It ties the ending with the beggining...the reason Shinji strangles asuk is cause he knows SHE knows that he got all...wanky on her, and i guess he feels like he can't face her...
that or he's a necro

i guess her touching his face was her way of saying it's okay?

but then when she says "i feel sick"
that's just her feeling his hard on....
CAUSE HE LIKES DEAD CHICKS...
or something...

maybe i shouldn't listen to my five year old brother...

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Postby slothen » Mon May 14, 2007 12:22 am

NAveryW wrote:However, out of curiosity, since you are presumably female, how would you feel if you were in Asuka's situation?


not quite a fair question, and in any case, completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.


Oh did I say "at hand?"




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Postby tinmeigut » Mon May 14, 2007 2:22 am

It ties the ending with the beggining...the reason Shinji strangles asuk is cause he knows SHE knows that he got all...wanky on her, and i guess he feels like he can't face her...


That doesn't convince me that much- you've hurt one's feeling and you can't face her anymore, so you'd rather kill her?
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Postby slothen » Mon May 14, 2007 2:41 am

that explanation actually works.
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Postby tinmeigut » Mon May 14, 2007 3:06 am

Then I bet the person will regret more than before he has killed the one whose feeling has been hurt.
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Postby slothen » Mon May 14, 2007 3:11 am

tinmeigut wrote:
It ties the ending with the beggining...the reason Shinji strangles asuk is cause he knows SHE knows that he got all...wanky on her, and i guess he feels like he can't face her...


you've hurt one's feeling and you can't face her anymore, so you'd rather kill her?


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