The after effects of 2nd Impact (Flooding)

xPearse · Postby **xPearse** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:42 am

I'm very curious about this, just how much of the earth was flooded because of 2nd impact? I mean, when it shows you the world from space in the show it looks very much unchanged by the water levels that rose 15 years prior. Is that just a goof or am I missing something? Heck, most of Europe would be underwater due to it being low land, so how is the UK still one of the top dogs in the world? Wouldn't they have suffered heavy damage because of 2nd impact, and I know everyone has recovered from 2nd Impact at the time the show takes place, but by then the balance of power would have shifted greatly. Thoughts?

Postby **pwhodges** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:00 am

Here's an easy way to visualise the effects of any selected rise up to 60m in the level of the oceans:

[url]http://flood.firetree.net/[/url]

You will note that most of Europe (sorry Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark!) remains dry at 60m, and even much of the UK.

ElMariachi · Postby **ElMariachi** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:56 am

pwhodges wrote:You will note that most of Europe (sorry Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark!) remains dry at 60m, and even much of the UK.

China on the other hand...
Oh yeah and Florida and Bangladesh are completely wiped off the map.

TMBounty_Hunter · Postby **TMBounty_Hunter** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:58 am

But at least the Aral Sea will return!

Kamon-san · Postby **Kamon-san** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:12 pm

Here's an easy way to visualise the effects of any selected rise up to 60m in the level of the oceans:

http://flood.firetree.net/

How weird; my hometown is flooded almost completely at 60 meters, but it stops a couple hundred meters before my parents' place. :lol:

I guess they would get a house by the water side if that happened.

Postby **Mr. Tines** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:36 am

Related thread -- http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/13329/Post-2I-Sea-Level-Rise-and-Climate-Change/

xPearse · Postby **xPearse** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:55 am

pwhodges wrote:Here's an easy way to visualise the effects of any selected rise up to 60m in the level of the oceans:

[url]http://flood.firetree.net/[/url]

You will note that most of Europe (sorry Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark!) remains dry at 60m, and even much of the UK.

Thanks, that was very useful. However, many of the major cities in the UK are gone, notably London and a few others. There would barely be a country left, neither mind a Government playing top dog on the world stage. Although, I thought the effects of the rising sea levels would have been more severe, hmm.

Mr. Tines wrote:Related thread -- http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/13329/Post-2I-Sea-Level-Rise-and-Climate-Change/

I'll check that out, thanks.

Lavinius · Postby **Lavinius** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:52 pm

Alright, here's a worse problem: Asuka leaves from Wilhelmshaven, which is... pretty much underwater at only one meter's rise.

Postby **pwhodges** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:56 pm

Good catch!

Postby **Monk Ed** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:11 pm

Lavinius wrote:Alright, here's a worse problem: Asuka leaves from Wilhelmshaven, which is... pretty much underwater at only one meter's rise.

That is a good catch. While I think Gainax likely just didn't consider that it would be underwater, maybe a new Wilhelmshaven was built but nobody wanted to call it "New" Wilhelmshaven (rather they renamed the old one Old Wilhemshaven).

Postby **FreakyFilmFan4ever** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Wilhelmshaven simply operates like Venice, Italy after Second Impact. Problem solved. (Venice, on the other hand, finally sinks in the drink.)

Guy Nacks · Postby **Guy Nacks** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:59 pm

As far as the US is concerned, the state that seems to have the most risk of getting totally submerged is Delaware, though Florida and Louisiana don't look to fare too well either.

Compiling_Autumn · Postby **Compiling_Autumn** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:06 pm

Guy Nacks wrote:As far as the US is concerned, the state that seems to have the most risk of getting totally submerged is Delaware, though Florida and Louisiana don't look to fare too well either.

More specifically, those of us in Virginia lose Norfolk, Quantico and the capital. Basically our biggest Navy base, Marine base, and of course the Pentagon.

ElMariachi · Postby **ElMariachi** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:10 pm

Compiling_Autumn wrote:More specifically, those of us in Virginia lose Norfolk, Quantico and the capital. Basically our biggest Navy base, Marine base, and of course the Pentagon.

Well, boat floats, so it's not really a problem! :tongue:

YouTube · Postby **Reichu** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:52 pm

I vaguely recall that the submerged city seen in episode 08 should not be submerged, but someone else will have to double-check this.

Lavinius · Postby **Lavinius** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:22 pm

FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Wilhelmshaven simply operates like Venice, Italy after Second Impact. Problem solved. (Venice, on the other hand, finally sinks in the drink.)

That's not very reasonable, given that Venice is built on islands, and Wilhelmshaven is completely sunk, and that the country for miles is sunk, and I doubt there'd be enough motivation to build a floating city in the middle of the ocean to serve as a port... and you'd need some other massive, functional port to even do so, I'd imagine, making it rather pointless.
Wilhelmshaven-2 is more reasonable, especially given what's happened with the name Tokyo.

Reichu wrote:I vaguely recall that the submerged city seen in episode 08 should not be submerged, but someone else will have to double-check this.

Moreover, the city seems far too deeply submeged, though I'm terrible with distance-judgment.
The only justification I can find is some kind of... earthquake. That throws the coast into the ocean, or something.

Postby **UrsusArctos** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:01 am

Yokohama is far too deeply submerged - as in a couple of hundred meters under water. There's no way that should've been possible even after the mess post-2I. I vaguely recall that the N2 weapons used during the 2000 war caused sections of the coast to subside, or something like that...not that it made any sense.

Bagheera · Postby **Bagheera** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:33 am

pwhodges wrote:Good catch!

The topic of flooding after Second Impact is a tricky one. If it was just the polar ice melted that'd be one thing, but that's not all that happened -- Antarctica itself, an entire continent, was destroyed. Depending on how far down the destruction went that could actually lead to sea level regression instead of rise. That obviously isn't the case here, since we've been told sea levels went up, but it's still tough to tell just how much since we have to factor lost land mass into the equation as well.

YouTube · Postby **Reichu** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:07 am

I can comprehend sea level rise due to ice melting, but my brain gets stuck on sea level declining due to the destruction of a continent. Are we talking destruction as in "blown into itty bitty chunks", in which case all of the matter comprising said continent is still on Earth and hypothetically displacing sea water, or destruction as in vaporized into gas or atomized into energy or something? The answer will probably make me feel stupid.

Postby **UrsusArctos** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:13 am

If 2I blew enough of the ice into space, or vaporized enough ocean water to create weird stuff like the pillars of salt, it might actually have brought the sea level down. But Antarctica is actually a continent that's depressed under the sheer weight of the ice covering it and if the ice covering it were to be rid of, it would rise over tens or hundreds of thousands of years.

So...I'd say it's pretty messed up.

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