How do you actually control an Eva Unit?
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How do you actually control an Eva Unit?
Let me explain my question first. It's clear that the pilot had to connect his/ her mind to the Eva Unit. In the entry plug you have two pistol-like control sticks which allow you to fire your weapon. Now this is my question. I think the two control sticks don't allow the pilot to control the movements of an Eva Unit, such as holding up your hands and perform a jump since these would be too complicated to be inputted by the control sticks. So what we're told is that the pilot had to think, think what he wanted the Eva Unit to do, and the Eva would do that accordingly, as Shinji was told when he first confronted Sachiel.
So does it mean that if you want the Eva to perform a particular set of movements you had to think through it first, then the Unit would do it? If it's so then it's totally different from human movement because when we move we don't actually have to think in our head what we want to do, we do it almost instantly when we want to do it. If so there would be a large time gap between wanting the Eva Unit to do something and the Eva Unit doing that wanted movement. If the pilot wanted to do the same set of movement which Asuka had done when she first dealt with the 7th Angel, the pilot must have a very quick mind right?
So does it mean that if you want the Eva to perform a particular set of movements you had to think through it first, then the Unit would do it? If it's so then it's totally different from human movement because when we move we don't actually have to think in our head what we want to do, we do it almost instantly when we want to do it. If so there would be a large time gap between wanting the Eva Unit to do something and the Eva Unit doing that wanted movement. If the pilot wanted to do the same set of movement which Asuka had done when she first dealt with the 7th Angel, the pilot must have a very quick mind right?
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I think its something like the pilot becomes the eva, so for them moving the Eva is like moving themselves it's an instant process, and the higher the sync rate the easier they can control the Eva although it comes with significant risks because the higher the sync rate the more they begin to feel the pain of the Eva.
The control sticks I have no idea about, I think they're either for controlling the weaponry or just to give the pilots something to grasp onto. Although if the Eva isnt responding the pilot tends to pull the sticks to try to get a response so i'm not sure, maybe you pull them back when you want to command the Eva.
I believe that its instantaneous just like human movement though.
The control sticks I have no idea about, I think they're either for controlling the weaponry or just to give the pilots something to grasp onto. Although if the Eva isnt responding the pilot tends to pull the sticks to try to get a response so i'm not sure, maybe you pull them back when you want to command the Eva.
I believe that its instantaneous just like human movement though.
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The link appears to be one achieved leargely through computer assistance. The pilots thoughts are transmitted via the hairband recievers, and are then sent to the Eva which responds.
However, the Eva will only comply if it has some kind of an affinity with the pilots "brainwave pattern". At least that's my understanding. The Eva can be fooled if the signal is sent instead by someone other than the human pilot, i.e. the dummy plugs, but this will only happen if the dummy plug can be "likeable" enough to the Eva.
However, the Eva will only comply if it has some kind of an affinity with the pilots "brainwave pattern". At least that's my understanding. The Eva can be fooled if the signal is sent instead by someone other than the human pilot, i.e. the dummy plugs, but this will only happen if the dummy plug can be "likeable" enough to the Eva.
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ObsessiveMathsFreak wrote:The link appears to be one achieved leargely through computer assistance. The pilots thoughts are transmitted via the hairband recievers, and are then sent to the Eva which responds.
However, the Eva will only comply if it has some kind of an affinity with the pilots "brainwave pattern". At least that's my understanding. The Eva can be fooled if the signal is sent instead by someone other than the human pilot, i.e. the dummy plugs, but this will only happen if the dummy plug can be "likeable" enough to the Eva.
I don't think the hairband receivers are necessary--I believe they may amplify the pilot's thoughts, but they aren't the only means of establishing a link. Maybe someone can check this, but I don't believe Shinji has them when he returns to pilot Unit 01 after Asuka gets ripped to shreads in the TV series (think maybe its ep. 19??) Could be wrong though...
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ZeroFive1 wrote:Oh, and bp:
Damn, Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn....
Oh wait, I just took a look at my copy of EoE and he doesn't appeare to be wearing them there--can't do screen caps so you'll just have to look: 42'20''
(Now of course we can argue whether Shinji is ever 'controlling' the Eva during these events, but that is a discussion for later...)
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Then does it mean you actually have to think about what the Eva will do before it does it? There would be a time gap between wanting the Unit to do something and the Unit actually acting.
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tinmeigut wrote:Then does it mean you actually have to think about what the Eva will do before it does it? There would be a time gap between wanting the Unit to do something and the Unit actually acting.
I think this is the point about the degree of snyc between the pilot and their Eva--the greater the sync ratio the more the Eva's movements are like our own--we 'think' about our movements, but the gap between thought and movement is negligible.
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There's one scene where we see EVA-00 and then cut to the cockpit to see Rei in the same posture. I think most of the control is through body synch (and thinking about walking); with the hand controls for anything that can't just be mimed (arming a weapon, actually straining hard).
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I think I suggested once that the control pedals may be electric power load balancers or some such nonsense. Depressed by the pilots to request more electrical output from the generators, to prevent brownouts and burnouts.
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Eva pilotting doesn't really make any obvious sense to me.
PILOT: In a seated position with hands fixed on induction levers that go 'click click'. Most of the movement achieved in the cockpit is an illusion of 'clever camera work'.
EVA: Pulls off an expansive repertoire of movement, many of them foreign to the pilots' own (if not impossible), along with many Eva-specific things (ATF magic, etc.).
Anything involving the actual articulated movement of the limbs (e.g., walking, punching, somersaulting) cannot be "mimed" according to this setup. And the levers seem to act as dummies more than anything else.
PILOT: In a seated position with hands fixed on induction levers that go 'click click'. Most of the movement achieved in the cockpit is an illusion of 'clever camera work'.
EVA: Pulls off an expansive repertoire of movement, many of them foreign to the pilots' own (if not impossible), along with many Eva-specific things (ATF magic, etc.).
Anything involving the actual articulated movement of the limbs (e.g., walking, punching, somersaulting) cannot be "mimed" according to this setup. And the levers seem to act as dummies more than anything else.
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it seems more of a visual device than anything to me...itd be strange if they were just sitting in a little bubble with nothing around them...perhaps the Eva and the pilot can better connect souls if part of the body is touching each other....you know...so theres less gap between AT Feilds...but its more liely that theyre just there so that they look more like theyre "Piloting"...the theory of moving finrse and such seems odd to me...there are so many little movements and such that can be done with hands....too much to be done wiht buttons or levers...but then again..."switch" makes the gun fire so...
what i want to know is...plug suits...why?....I think at one pint its said that they enhance your AT Feild...but im not seeing it...Shinji seemed to Pilot it just fine in his regular clothes...but i guess those were desperate measures where there was no time for plug suits...but still...im not seeing it
what i want to know is...plug suits...why?....I think at one pint its said that they enhance your AT Feild...but im not seeing it...Shinji seemed to Pilot it just fine in his regular clothes...but i guess those were desperate measures where there was no time for plug suits...but still...im not seeing it
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ZeroFive1 wrote:As seen in episode 3, it seems they might just be a physical thing to focus on, because he's putting both hands on it.
Oh, and bp:
I could imagine that last picture, with a picture of a delicious Spicy Italian Sub from Subway in his mouth.
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