"If I Can't Be Yours" Lyrics Analysis/Thanatos POV
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For me they download as a strange file type I've never seen before (.rmvb = RealMedia Variable Bitrate), which is recognised and plays fine in VLC. Quite slow downloading, though. Perhaps they should be repackaged in a more up to date format.
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It's years since I had a version of RealPlayer on my machine (and then it was because the BBC insisted on continuing to use it for audio streaming for longer than you'd expect).
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
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"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
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I've found a torrent with the best quality ever, but i don't know if this is the right place to talk about it. If it is not, please, delete the link. The edit work of Tamashii No refrain is just GREAT, specially the last third of the footage, that express the complex nature of her relationship with the main character. And the song is so fucking 90s that nostalgia overcomes me.
Armaggedon is just..... . Sorry, I can't deal with that song
Evangelion Music DVD – 4 Clips
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Audio: FLAC 2.0 + Dolby 5.1 @ 448 kbps + Dolby 5.1 @ 448 kbps + (only clips 1 y 4) Dolby 2.0 @ 448 kbps
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Evangelion Remix DVD – 5 Clips
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"[SUBB] Shin Seiki Evangelion: Vídeoclips" on Nyaa
Do american "cool" people know that in Europe only alcoholics and homeless drink wine without food by their side???
That not means the song is about Him and Asuka or about anybody, it's just a sad theme.
A sad theme that's often associated with teh Rei. Even if one can concede there isn't any connection, again, the association is rather strong. EoE is entirely focused on Shinji's relationship with Asuka so I don't see why there can't at least be one the thing that calls back to Shinji's relation with Rei, if even it's something a trite and insignificant as a song played after the credits. It has nothing to do with shipping...unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.
Rei IV wrote:A sad theme that's often associated with teh Rei. Even if one can concede there isn't any connection, again, the association is rather strong. EoE is entirely focused on Shinji's relationship with Asuka so I don't see why there can't at least be one the thing that calls back to Shinji's relation with Rei, if even it's something a trite and insignificant as a song played after the credits. It has nothing to do with shipping...unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.
Don't misunderstand me, I can be wrong and you right and I understand your reasoning. Just, I've never thought about the song being connected with Rei, for me is only a sad theme after so many people have died, which fits with the name : THANATOS. of course I agree the the seems associated with Rei.
Funny thing is that people talk about the movie frame by frame, but don't remember where is placed the song. How convenient...
Do american "cool" people know that in Europe only alcoholics and homeless drink wine without food by their side???
Whose point of view is Thanatos?
Thanatos (If I Can't Be Yours), used as background music as an instrumental, and played during the credits of EoE. Whose point of view do you think it is?
I can't necessarily think of every time it plays, but...
if I remember correctly, it plays right around when Rei dies(the first time), then in EoE right after Asuka dies(the only time... I think)
and is also on the 'Birthday of Rei Ayanami' album.
What do you think?
Shinji's?
Rei's?
Madoka's?
Deadpool's?
I can't necessarily think of every time it plays, but...
SPOILER: Show
if I remember correctly, it plays right around when Rei dies(the first time), then in EoE right after Asuka dies(the only time... I think)
and is also on the 'Birthday of Rei Ayanami' album.
What do you think?
Shinji's?
Rei's?
Madoka's?
Deadpool's?
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I'd say Rei, specifically after she ascends to Lilith.
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Gendou, if anyone. Sung to Yui. But probably no one in particular. The lyrics, the wiki claims weren't written by Anno or anyone major in the production...
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Re: Whose point of view is Thanatos?
Aether wrote:Thanatos (If I Can't Be Yours), used as background music as an instrumental, and played during the credits of EoE. Whose point of view do you think it is?
I can't necessarily think of every time it plays, but...SPOILER: Show
if I remember correctly, it plays right around when Rei dies(the first time), then in EoE right after Asuka dies(the only time... I think)
and is also on the 'Birthday of Rei Ayanami' album.
What do you think?
Shinji's?
Rei's?
Madoka's?
Deadpool's?
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Personally I feel as though the song is indeed about Rei, as listening to it for the probably 100th time I found many of the lyrics to be parallels to Rei. 'I don't sleep' Rei 3 is a character we hardly ever see sleeping, we often see her on her pillow, gazing at nothing and contemplating things, like Kaworu or the question of why she was alive in episode 24. 'I don't feel a thing' is one of the main thing people seem to know about Rei. She hardly expresses herself.
'Can't shed a tear now' This one seems to speak to Rei. It's true, neither Misato nor Asuka cry when they die, but they do cry throughout the series. Rei 2 is surprised when tears fall to her lap during the fight with Arnisael, and she asks herself (or the angel) if she was the one crying. When Rei 3 begins to cry when she picks up Gendo's glasses, she once again asks 'Why am I crying?'
'I realize we're not the same' Rei is a very different being from someone like Shinji even before she combines with Lilith. She's strange, and a mystery to viewers. 'I must break free', obvious, Rei breaking from Gendo's plan and stealing Adam. There is not a way through pain, which is what the viewer realizes as End of Evangelion conspires. It's Rei's choice to choose to save Shinji instead of remaining with Gendo, but by going to Lilith, she almost strips away any chance that Shinji will see her as a human. That Shinji will see her as his Rei, he hardly sees the situation as Rei transforming into this because 'Ikari needs me'. He's freaked out. He's screaming in madness as Rei gives him instrumentality, so much so that the sight of her will not calm him, not give him any hope,but the sight of Kaworu will.
Rei is an interesting character, especially in how she views herself, and I do think this song is one meant for her.
'Can't shed a tear now' This one seems to speak to Rei. It's true, neither Misato nor Asuka cry when they die, but they do cry throughout the series. Rei 2 is surprised when tears fall to her lap during the fight with Arnisael, and she asks herself (or the angel) if she was the one crying. When Rei 3 begins to cry when she picks up Gendo's glasses, she once again asks 'Why am I crying?'
'I realize we're not the same' Rei is a very different being from someone like Shinji even before she combines with Lilith. She's strange, and a mystery to viewers. 'I must break free', obvious, Rei breaking from Gendo's plan and stealing Adam. There is not a way through pain, which is what the viewer realizes as End of Evangelion conspires. It's Rei's choice to choose to save Shinji instead of remaining with Gendo, but by going to Lilith, she almost strips away any chance that Shinji will see her as a human. That Shinji will see her as his Rei, he hardly sees the situation as Rei transforming into this because 'Ikari needs me'. He's freaked out. He's screaming in madness as Rei gives him instrumentality, so much so that the sight of her will not calm him, not give him any hope,but the sight of Kaworu will.
Rei is an interesting character, especially in how she views herself, and I do think this song is one meant for her.
Why.
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