You know, you make a good point. I don't need to swear off the whole internet, just Reddit.
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You know, you make a good point. I don't need to swear off the whole internet, just Reddit.
I mean, predictability is the central attraction and the narrative hook that we've all come to expect from the Evangelion franchise. How come Anno can't realize this? Twice? - FreakyFilmFan4ever
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The reason it's a shitshow is that they are selling something as a remake that isn't one. It's kinda like false marketing, though I don't want to be too judgemental,
it seems the latest trailer which I haven't seen yet shows quite a bit, so I guess they are kinda making clear it's not a remake and more of a Rebuild (heh). Still most people who haven't played OG FFVII (which they should instead of playing this...) will go in expecting a remake...which spoils story elements at the beginning, like Zack's identity. Those people have fallen into a trap basically.
Also, I'd be a hypocrite if I had something against the core of the idea when I enjoy Rebuild. I don't. My issue is,
as has always been, that I don't think Nomura is a good director. Compare how Kitase made Sephiroth the menacing presence we know and love and how Nomura tries to do the same. It's silly and Kitase is light years ahead of Nomura. I will always appreciate his amazing character designs for 97's title, but I just don't get why he's directing this.
Btw I agree with your comment about online negativity.
I don't like wjat I'm seeing of the remake but I don't hate the people responsible or anything weird like that lol
it seems the latest trailer which I haven't seen yet shows quite a bit, so I guess they are kinda making clear it's not a remake and more of a Rebuild (heh). Still most people who haven't played OG FFVII (which they should instead of playing this...) will go in expecting a remake...which spoils story elements at the beginning, like Zack's identity. Those people have fallen into a trap basically.
Also, I'd be a hypocrite if I had something against the core of the idea when I enjoy Rebuild. I don't. My issue is,
as has always been, that I don't think Nomura is a good director. Compare how Kitase made Sephiroth the menacing presence we know and love and how Nomura tries to do the same. It's silly and Kitase is light years ahead of Nomura. I will always appreciate his amazing character designs for 97's title, but I just don't get why he's directing this.
Btw I agree with your comment about online negativity.
I don't like wjat I'm seeing of the remake but I don't hate the people responsible or anything weird like that lol
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I just find it funny that Nomura automaticaly gets blamed for anything people don't like even though Kitase is also directing this too, and it has exact same writer as the original.
I just find people's propensity to shit on things tiring at my age.
I just find people's propensity to shit on things tiring at my age.
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Kitase directed FFVII, but he is only the producer on Remake. And OG FFVII was written by Nojima and Kitase together. I think Nojima did an amazing job on FFVII, but in both cases, with Kitase and Nomura, every choice goes through them and they are the people responsible for the final vision.
Also everything visual definitely is Nomura, including designs and action scenes.
He is to be blamed or praised for the final result, depending on how you feel.
Also everything visual definitely is Nomura, including designs and action scenes.
He is to be blamed or praised for the final result, depending on how you feel.
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
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Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Yes, yes it is. And I saw everything!
Hell, that trailer alone did what the one with the Turks couldn't make me do... Buy the game
Now the wait game begins... It's not like I have anywhere else to go...
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Thanks to glorious bestbuy, my summer 2019 pre order will only arrive next week, by which point I'll be spoiled against my will.
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It took Zap and I from Thursday evening until Sunday evening and we're both absolutely in love, all over again. We nabbed digital Standard on PSN since Amazon said until Thursday proper that our physical Deluxe preorder (from E3 2019) was arriving today on the 14th (surprise surprise, it arrived April 10th, after all).
"Quite possibly the greatest game ever made" indeed.
I'm not about to spoil anybody here (trust me that you'll want to experience this on your own), but just to lightly touch upon some aspects without giving any full details:
"Quite possibly the greatest game ever made" indeed.
I'm not about to spoil anybody here (trust me that you'll want to experience this on your own), but just to lightly touch upon some aspects without giving any full details:
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Yes, the last two chapters do fly off the rails Rebuild-style, but honestly? That makes me love this Remake even more, provided the craziness has the necessary context down the line. Besides the ending, 7R's incredibly faithful to the original, and even gives us 3 different "date" (Resolution Scenes in Chapter 14) outcomes like the original.
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Ohhh man!
The hype train will arrive tomorrow at my house (Why don't we have a "hype train Smilie"?)
I've been out of Youtube and silenced any Reddit and Facebook communities for days as to not spoil myself.
I can hardly wait!
The hype train will arrive tomorrow at my house (Why don't we have a "hype train Smilie"?)
I've been out of Youtube and silenced any Reddit and Facebook communities for days as to not spoil myself.
I can hardly wait!
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I'm looking forward to yours and everyone else's thoughts (admittedly I'm a little depressed by those who hated the wacky ending since the game itself was damn gold).
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I just passed the
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mission with Avalache where you meet Roche -my opinion on him still pending-
Should we discuss here or is there a thread dedicated to the Remake?
Arguably I could discuss in Reddit or the Lifestream, but I'd rather talk with people primed to overthinking stuff via Evangelion
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My copy of the deluxe edition came in but I will not play it until I finish Persona 5 Royal.
Tempting though it may be....
Tempting though it may be....
Please just call me Ian, "TheFrisky" is more of a title.
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Exactly, I'd love to discuss things with everybody here~ I will say spoiler-free that IMO the Remake's ending is quite straightforward instead of, uh, the popular theories that have been taking shape. (And yes, of course Zap and I took the "frame by frame analysis" approach to the final chapter, why wouldn't we? :3 )
One very helpful thing to understand the story/character's feelings is reading the Story sections from the Map menu (L1/L2) where you can view chapter by chapter and different Discoveries, to boot!
A little game mechanics commentary, but no details on what/how:
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I love how you can collect different Wall Market Dresses and there's even an Affection system at play (in Midgar of all places!), still!
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Sailor Star Dust wrote:Exactly, I'd love to discuss things with everybody here~ I will say spoiler-free that IMO the Remake's ending is quite straightforward instead of, uh, the popular theories that have been taking shape. (And yes, of course Zap and I took the "frame by frame analysis" approach to the final chapter, why wouldn't we? :3 )
Count me in!
Let me just finish the game
I just passed the scene where you meet Aerith...
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that dream sequence before she wakes you up, though... Oh my!
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Claudia looked so good! I was happy I wonder if Tifa's dad will still be named Brian since that's his name in his old concept sketches?
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Just reached Wall Market and I can already tell this is gonna be crazier and more roundabout than the original
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Also, that sequence with Aerith before, at the park, where Cloud literally blocks out Zack's name! Holy shit!
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Yeeep. Things get even crazier, regarding that situation (I absolutely love how they work in Cloud's white noise headaches this go around).
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I still need to
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beat the god damn hellhouse! My first attempt was 40 minutes long, so I must of been doing something wrong. Learned afterwards the color of the house indicates it's current weakness.
I mean, predictability is the central attraction and the narrative hook that we've all come to expect from the Evangelion franchise. How come Anno can't realize this? Twice? - FreakyFilmFan4ever
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They should have called it FFVII Rebuild. It's a weird sequel meta commentary that retcons Advent Children. Also I appreciate them saying that the original ending was a bad end.
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YES!
OMG it took me six tries!
My method to beating it:
First thing I did was use the Asses materia. Cloud is equipped with every element and Aerith with as many as she could carry. Aerith's Arcane barrier/doublecast field is great in this battle.
When the barrier is down, cast the opposite element. Most of the trick is in attacking like crazy in the few precious seconds it's unprotected and in learning the attack patterns to dodge. When you need to dodge, take control of Cloud 'cuz he runs faster.
OMG it took me six tries!
My method to beating it:
First thing I did was use the Asses materia. Cloud is equipped with every element and Aerith with as many as she could carry. Aerith's Arcane barrier/doublecast field is great in this battle.
When the barrier is down, cast the opposite element. Most of the trick is in attacking like crazy in the few precious seconds it's unprotected and in learning the attack patterns to dodge. When you need to dodge, take control of Cloud 'cuz he runs faster.
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What's funny is in Hard Mode, a certain Boss battle is a yet another Evangelion reference like the old D-Type equipment. Sadly it's not reflected in the English version (information in tagged spoilers below):
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Proud Clod Unit Zero (In English, it's called "Pride and Joy")
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