What was the saddest part of Eva for you?
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Re: What was the saddest part of Eva for you?
CyberXIII wrote:What was the saddest scene/theme/song/realization for you regarding the series proper?
Did a character's backstory seem slightly worse than the others to you? Did a scene tug at your heart? Did one particular moment feel more depressing to you?
For me, ironically enough, it's a tossup between Shinji and Asuka, considering both of their backstories tie into my greatest fear. (Which shall remain unsaid.)
What about the rest of you?
I think the most I felt sad for was ritsuko with gendo (moral judgements aside) that she was being used and was actually very depressed and miserable even though most of the time she doesn't show it
I suppose another way of saying it, is she never got to be in a loveing relationship. I felt sorry for her..
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Rei has the universal appeal of a kicked puppy.
Rei II's death.
...which is what my answer would be before a previous post reminded me of Kaji's post-mortem message left on Misato's answering machine. Thanks, Carla. Now I'm depressed.
OH GOD WHY.
...which is what my answer would be before a previous post reminded me of Kaji's post-mortem message left on Misato's answering machine. Thanks, Carla. Now I'm depressed.
OH GOD WHY.
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Re: Rei has the universal appeal of a kicked puppy.
bittersweet ending: episode 24. the angels are gone and mankind is safe... but tokyo-3 has been ruined; Kaji is dead; toji is a cripple; kensuke, hikari, and their families have moved away, taking pen-pen with them; Asuka is catatonic; ritsuko is in prison; Misato is a nervous wreck; Rei is "the third one"; and Shinji is utterly broken psychologically after having to kill the only person who has offered him unconditional love in the course of the whole series. come the movie? don't worry! it gets worse! ~from the source of all wisdom in the world.
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I looked over all the responses to the original question and I agree with just about everything that's been mentioned already. So much material from both the series and movies is so moving that it's difficult to zero in on just one scene that stands out as the most sad.
Nevertheless, I must admit I was somewhat surprised by how choked up I got during that brief flashback sequence (I think it was from episode 21, when SEELE kidnapped Fuyutsuki) where the audience gets to see Shinji as a small boy right before Yui is absorbed into Unit-01. I guess I couldn't help but think about what a cute, happy kid Shinji was right up until that point, as well as all the depression, confusion, loneliness, etc. that was awaiting him immediately following his mother's contact experiment.
Oddly, I had a similar reaction to seeing chibi-Rei for just a brief moment I think during episode 25. IIRC somewhere in the middle of teenage Rei's instrumentality monologue, a very small (perhaps Rei I) version of herself asks her why she just said what she did. As soon as that happened, I couldn't help but contemplate what a strange, sheltered and lonely existence young Rei must have had while growing up.
At first, I was a bit puzzled by my reaction to both of those moments. Perhaps it was simply because Shinji and Rei are the characters I relate to the most. The more I dwelled on it, however, I started to realize there might be something else going on.
Since I had spent the majority of my own adolescence in a fairly introverted state, dealing with bouts of depression and confusion about life in general, the teenage versions of Shinji and Rei didn't seem all that dysfunctional to me. On the other hand, the rather strong possibilty that they both were most likely neglected at a very young age, shown next to no affection from anyone and seldom experienced any social contact for years just doesn't sit right with me.
Sorry about the off topic tangent(s).
Nevertheless, I must admit I was somewhat surprised by how choked up I got during that brief flashback sequence (I think it was from episode 21, when SEELE kidnapped Fuyutsuki) where the audience gets to see Shinji as a small boy right before Yui is absorbed into Unit-01. I guess I couldn't help but think about what a cute, happy kid Shinji was right up until that point, as well as all the depression, confusion, loneliness, etc. that was awaiting him immediately following his mother's contact experiment.
Oddly, I had a similar reaction to seeing chibi-Rei for just a brief moment I think during episode 25. IIRC somewhere in the middle of teenage Rei's instrumentality monologue, a very small (perhaps Rei I) version of herself asks her why she just said what she did. As soon as that happened, I couldn't help but contemplate what a strange, sheltered and lonely existence young Rei must have had while growing up.
At first, I was a bit puzzled by my reaction to both of those moments. Perhaps it was simply because Shinji and Rei are the characters I relate to the most. The more I dwelled on it, however, I started to realize there might be something else going on.
Since I had spent the majority of my own adolescence in a fairly introverted state, dealing with bouts of depression and confusion about life in general, the teenage versions of Shinji and Rei didn't seem all that dysfunctional to me. On the other hand, the rather strong possibilty that they both were most likely neglected at a very young age, shown next to no affection from anyone and seldom experienced any social contact for years just doesn't sit right with me.
Sorry about the off topic tangent(s).
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Kaji/Misato talk when they're drunk and walking home in "She longed for the kisses of others..." episode.
**Only in Japanese sub
Kaji's death (D&R)
When Gendou accepts his retribution for alienating Shinji (EoE)
Shinji kills Toji (manga/D&R/Series)
*Japanese version only
Rei rejects Gendou for Shinji (EoE)
Shinji opens Unit 00's plug simularly to Gendou and Shinji says "Just try smiling."
**Only in Japanese sub
Kaji's death (D&R)
When Gendou accepts his retribution for alienating Shinji (EoE)
Shinji kills Toji (manga/D&R/Series)
*Japanese version only
Rei rejects Gendou for Shinji (EoE)
Shinji opens Unit 00's plug simularly to Gendou and Shinji says "Just try smiling."
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For me, it's when Misato listens to Kaji's last message. I get choked up every time, which is the norm when it comes to "listening to the last message" scenes, even of characters I know nothing about. I didn't even get choked up over Kaji's death itself, nor Misato's later, because of my belief that they'll resurrect. But you forget all that when you're in the moment. There's something about the grainy recorded voice of a loved one, saying something loving from beyond the grave, that tugs at my emotions.
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Monk-kun, I know what you mean! For me Misato's reaction scene, and especially Shinji watching and feeling powerless to do anything... that's the emotional gold. I find such scenes more effective than death scenes generally.
It is also very nicely animated, with a lot of movement.
It is also very nicely animated, with a lot of movement.
~ O-chan is soooo 2D right now.
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Kaji's death is kind of a funny situation in a way-- normally, death scenes are a lot more dramatic or harsh and elicit strong reactions out of me... but Kaji's death? Kaji's death was AWESOME. the dude redefined "going out in style"! i think i cheered.
that's why i think the answering machine message was harder, at least for me. that's when it finally hit me: "oh man, he's really not coming back, is he? and he knew. he freakin' knew." and then Misato starts crying so desperately, and one doesn't even have time to rationalize what's going on before the sadness creeps up on you. and then we cut back to Shinji, too-- and i think what bothered me the most was that not only was he feeling impotent to help Misato, but Kaji was pretty much the closest thing to a male role model he had. it's all the more desperate because Misato's breakdown cuts down every hope he could've had for Kaji to be safe, and as such he can't find any way to comfort her. it's almost a vicious cycle of pain.
...and i'll shut up before i make myself cry, lol.
that's why i think the answering machine message was harder, at least for me. that's when it finally hit me: "oh man, he's really not coming back, is he? and he knew. he freakin' knew." and then Misato starts crying so desperately, and one doesn't even have time to rationalize what's going on before the sadness creeps up on you. and then we cut back to Shinji, too-- and i think what bothered me the most was that not only was he feeling impotent to help Misato, but Kaji was pretty much the closest thing to a male role model he had. it's all the more desperate because Misato's breakdown cuts down every hope he could've had for Kaji to be safe, and as such he can't find any way to comfort her. it's almost a vicious cycle of pain.
...and i'll shut up before i make myself cry, lol.
bittersweet ending: episode 24. the angels are gone and mankind is safe... but tokyo-3 has been ruined; Kaji is dead; toji is a cripple; kensuke, hikari, and their families have moved away, taking pen-pen with them; Asuka is catatonic; ritsuko is in prison; Misato is a nervous wreck; Rei is "the third one"; and Shinji is utterly broken psychologically after having to kill the only person who has offered him unconditional love in the course of the whole series. come the movie? don't worry! it gets worse! ~from the source of all wisdom in the world.
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BC Baron wrote:Since I had spent the majority of my own adolescence in a fairly introverted state, dealing with bouts of depression and confusion about life in general, the teenage versions of Shinji and Rei didn't seem all that dysfunctional to me. On the other hand, the rather strong possibilty that they both were most likely neglected at a very young age, shown next to no affection from anyone and seldom experienced any social contact for years just doesn't sit right with me.
Same thing for me. In fact, after watching EoE, I had another episode of my depression.
That whole movie made really depressed. I watched it over a few times right after I saw it, and the scene that made feel the most sad was the ending. I don't know about the rest of you, but I just feel like their is no hope at the end. I mean yes, people can come back. But it just would be impossible to go back to the way things once were.
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