Ramiel versus Zeruel

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:54 pm

Seele didn't love her, otherwise they wouldn't have implicitly threaten to put a bullet through Yui-kun's head. (Part of the reason Yui went into Eva; cryptic conversation between Fuyutsuki & Yui in 21', end of it shown in 26')
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Postby BEsERk EVA01 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:47 am

i think sachiel's beam is faster. see, in ep.1, wen sachiel FIRST uses its energy beam on NERV, Gendo says: THAT BASTARD. IT KNOWS WE'RE HERE"

Yeah, and then 1 second later, sachiel uses its energy beam again on NERV HQ.

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Postby CitizenGeek » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:02 am

Nah, Sachiel would go down easily against Ramiel or Zeruel. Zeruel is faster and his attacks destroyed 2 Evas, while Sachiel's attacks didn't even penetrate Unit01's skull armour.

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Basically she's one of those characters that we know nearly anything about, but is actually most aware of what's going on, especially when planning things.

...Kinda like Rei in some ways.


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Postby BobBQ » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:15 am

CitizenGeek wrote:No, that's not 'fact' at all. Seriously, you need to start putting 'IMO' and 'according to the Yui theory ..." before you start spouting this stuff.

You need to rewatch E21' and E26'. It's all in there.

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Postby felineki » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:01 pm

"Yui theory"?

Ha ha, oh wow. :lol:

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Postby C4 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:19 am

Ramiel vs. Zeruel? It's a tad bit refreshing to talk about something so trivial. ^_^ I have to say, Ramiel is designed so simply, that he just exudes perfection. He(She?) was always one of my favorite angels, just because he was so innocuous, and yet, so efficient, and one of the most dangerous angels simply due to the fact that you couldn't get anywhere near it.(Though my friend who I just introduced the series to thinks that Ramiel is one of the lamer angels.) Zeruel does seem rather ruthless, and seems to rather wantonly cause destruction, so he seems like more of a loose cannon that Ramiel does, but he doesn't have anything to combat Ramiel's range, so Ramiel gets the win.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:25 am

The Grand Mistress of the board has labeled Ramiel a female.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:42 am

UrsusArctos wrote:The Grand Mistress of the board has labeled Ramiel a female.


Based on the "Angel Kiss" doujin.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:34 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:
UrsusArctos wrote:The Grand Mistress of the board has labeled Ramiel a female.


Based on the "Angel Kiss" doujin.


Grunt! That was Shamshel in the doujin, not Ramiel. Shamshel and Sachiel were in love with each other, and Shammy tried to get her revenge on Sho for killing Sachi.

Hmm...judging from Rebuild, I think it'd be appropriate to label Ramiel a guy.
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Postby felineki » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:02 am

The singing sound Ramiel makes while approaching Tokyo 3 sounds like a female human voice to me.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:12 pm

Ramiel: AAAAaaaaaaaAAAAA! AAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAA! HUMMMMMMMMMMMM.....
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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:34 pm

I'm really surprised that this type of thread has lasted so long without being locked. Oh shi-
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Postby BEsERk EVA01 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:12 am

technially, almost all the angels (exception of adam) are female for some reason. wen i first saw the angels, they all looked male to me cept for ramiel, armisael and aruel.

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Postby TheAyanamiOtaku » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:05 pm

what about leliel? i wonder how genders work in higher dimensions o.o
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Postby Sachi » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:22 am

Genders are different Sexes. but since the Angels dont seem to have sex. they dont have gender. why dont we all just call them "ITs"
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Postby BEsERk EVA01 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:23 am

Lol. Imagine them having it. Zeruel and Sachiel.......(shudders) It's like..

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Postby Reichu » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:56 am

I'm ambivalent about a lot of the Angels on my old "list" these days, Ramiel included.

BEsERk EVA01 wrote:technially, almost all the angels (exception of adam) are female for some reason.

Huh?
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Postby chee » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:01 am

BEsERk EVA01 wrote:Lol. Imagine them having it. Zeruel and Sachiel.......(shudders) It's like..


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Postby Defectron » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:57 pm

technially, almost all the angels (exception of adam) are female for some reason. wen i first saw the angels, they all looked male to me cept for ramiel, armisael and aruel.


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Postby BEsERk EVA01 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:13 am

I LURK. Anyway, I usually go on other fan-sites of Evangelion. It's not that hard. Furthermore, I got this from wikipedia. On Evangelion Angels. It says on the bottom of each Angel fact file.

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UPDATE: Ah, nuts! Someone edited it! It used to say what gender it was! Crap! Well,I'm guessing other hard-core fan-sites on Evangelion might have it. Just LURK.
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