Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby JoelcrNeto » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:21 am

The deputy director Daizen Komatsuda took a photo very close, but I can't recognize who is:
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There is a theory that Hikari, Kensuke and Toji may appear in this film, but adults.
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby Berserker » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:47 am

That long red skirt alone is giving me Hikari vibe. Also the brown hair and somewhat Hikari-ish facial structure from the first glance looking at the pic...

Oh, and just noticed from zooming real close, whoever she is, she's staring at something to her right, the same direction the eva's facing.
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Postby ErgoProxy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:06 am

Okay, I'm bidding high now, but the duo standing near to Unit 01, in the centre of the zoomed photo, seems to be adult Toji (half-hidden behind the hill) and adult Kensuke (waving his left hand in the air).
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby Kendrix » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:24 am

View Original PostJoelcrNeto wrote:I have a sensation already see this pic in somewhere, maybe here?


Perhaps you're thinking of a chapter cover from the Manga that featured them in that same pose?
It was one covering the early parts of 25' I think
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby JoelcrNeto » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 am

^
Hmmm... you mean Sadamoto’s manga? This is the only one I remember:
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(It’s beautiful by the way)
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby Berserker » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 am

View Original PostErgoProxy wrote:the duo standing near to Unit 01, in the centre of the zoomed photo, seems to be adult Toji and adult Kensuke

...Those two don't even have eyes, nose or anything. And the one you seem to call Toji is quite "healthy", i might say. :???:

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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby Kendrix » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:48 am

View Original PostJoelcrNeto wrote:^
Hmmm... you mean Sadamoto’s manga? This is the only one I remember


That one! its like he's welcoming her to heaven

But now that i see it the fanart above actually has them leaning in the opposite direction
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby robersora » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:52 am

View Original PostBerserker wrote:Anno should be real proud of us. We're trying to interpret every single detail from a freaking poster.


Considering his remarks about over obsessive fans, I'd like to think "concern" would be the only thing he felt if he knew.
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Postby ErgoProxy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:17 pm

robersora wrote:Considering his remarks about over obsessive fans, I'd like to think "concern" would be the only thing he felt if he knew.

Well, this forum is available in public, so you can't be 100% sure who's reading your posts - unless you monitor the traffic at low level. Then again, who said Anno can't handle TOR or VPN? The very domain of this forum draws attention, so it's quite possible that he's lurking it at times. Or, he might delegate some employee to monitor it and inform him about all the whacky creative gaijin ideas popping up here.

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Postby Berserker » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:09 am

I should stop joking. It always ends up everyone taking it seriously, resulting in misunderstandment. But nice point made there Ergo, sometimes i think of it like that too.
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Re: Evangelion Pic Thread 10: The Society for the Appreciation Of The Premium Girl (and her friends)

Postby JoelcrNeto » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:11 am

Asuka by the animator and illustrator Yoneyama Mai (@yoneyamai on Twitter).
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Is the same artist who made some EVANGELION STORE and RADIO EVA illustrations.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:02 pm

She's awesome.
She did that Rei lipstock commercial btw.
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Postby robersora » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:11 pm

Quite the different vibe from Asuka's little stint in the bathtub in the show, lol.
Her technical skills are amazing, and it evokes an uncomfortable feeling inside of me, which is an amazing feat and speaks to the power of her art. To elaborate I'm used to seeing sexualized drawings of 14 year olds and generally I don't mind, but something about her art makes me uncomfortable. The Rei lipstick one outright disgusted me, considering I'm normally rolling my eyes at all the people screeching about pedophilia on Twitter because somehow that has become a peer group for them, seeing this made me understand why a drawing might trigger somebody. Same goes for this depiction of Asuka.
I think it's because in the show there's this vibe of Rei being Gendou's sex-doll and her wearing lipstick with that expression gives me the feeling of her "being ordered to look pretty" for an old man wanting to fuck her.
Same goes with this depiction of Asuka in the bathtub. It's her most vulnerable low point moment in the show, and here it's twisted into some fetishized photoshoot for leering on watchers.

This is Art with a capital A with a lack for a better term. It makes me feel something other besides "huh, this looks cool"
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Postby JoelcrNeto » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:39 pm

^
Perhaps I'm very innocent, but I don't see anything sexualized/fetishized in this illustration. If I do, I certainly wouldn't have posted, since I hate sexualization, whatever the character's age.

I regretted posting this pic.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:09 pm

I dunno if it's meant to evoke the bathtub scene. It's framed differently, it's a different place and she has clothing on. As for the sexualization of the characters, these illustrations just continue what the show already did. In theory the characters could be older here, if that makes you feel better about it.
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Postby robersora » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:39 pm

What can I say other than I love postmodernism! And I see another amazing statement from Yoneyama.

The leering angle at which we look at her, the sultry look in her eyes, the way the tits are positioned just over the surface in a way that would be an uncomfortable pose for her, but makes her body sexy: the fact that that's exactly how she used her burgeoning sexuality in the show to assert her maturity.... Similar to how Lipstick-Rei is portrayed staring blankly as she has been ordered to look good for Gendou's/Reifans leering eyes:
I hate to break it to you, but most art is sexualized, it's an inherent part of the human condition and subsequently our artworks since the dawn of human history. Consider Venus of Willendorf, Michelangelos David right up to modern pop music videos. Evangelion is especially infamous for depicting its cast in skin-tight plug-suits (the epitome being Asuka's slut-suit in 2.22), and its fandom turns it up to 11 regularly. Despite one could question the ethics behind depicting 14 year old girls in a sexually pronounced manner - I don't really mind it, as it's a fruitless conversation to have, since for the reasons stated above it is not unique to Evangelion. In the end it's a cartoon aimed at a teenage audience, and while the forced sexiness might be self-serving it is a huge reason for Evangelion's ongoing success. So if sleazy Otaku populating their rooms with depictions of underage sex-objects means I get to see more of Anno's directing, I couldn't care less.
Nothing about this is revolutionary - this observation is something Miyazaki and Anno lament for like 40 years now and it propelled Takeshi Murakami into international superstardom.

BUT anyhow,
her illustrations really make me question my willful ignorance. It makes me feel sleazy for ignoring this huge probably problematic part of this artwork I love so dearly, and that's why I think Yoneyama Mai's pieces are fantastic statements of my ambivalent feelings. Like I love Apple products, completely ignoring the conditions they have been produced in. But as with Evangelion portraying its female cast like objects to be lusted after, and like Apple builds its Computers in conditions not accepted in the West, both of them are just indicative of a system in disarray. Most Anime is founded on the sex drive of incels, most consumer products are produced in terrible conditions. The difference is me not only accepting it, but in these particular cases celebrating them with a blind eye to its further troublesome implications.
When I saw lipstick-Rei getting ready to be a slut for Gendou/you (TM) I thought this was a (happy) accident, but seeing her depicting Asuka in a slutpose in a bathtub (!) no less, just goes to show she knows what she's doing. Great observation, done in a subtle manner but also just on a sheer technical level, superbly realized.


View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:I dunno if it's meant to evoke the bathtub scene. It's framed differently, it's a different place and she has clothing on. As for the sexualization of the characters, these illustrations just continue what the show already did. In theory the characters could be older here, if that makes you feel better about it.


You're completely missing my point. I'm not feeling bad about it, I'm celebrating, that her artwork goes beyond "oh this looks cool/this turns me on" and actually talks to me.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:37 pm

∆ Gotcha. I didn't get it.
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Postby cyharding » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:05 pm

@robersora: I think, since this is from the same artist that did the Radio EVA Illustrations, that it is meant to invoke photos that you would see in fashion magazines like Vogue. Though the bathtub imagery do give it a unique subtext that would register on some fans radar, so I can see the point you' re making.
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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:45 am

^
Putting 14 year olds in situations like a sexy Vogue photoshoot is questionable.
Also I forgot to mention the fact that the water is shimmering red.
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Postby Berserker » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:13 am

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