Are the On-Air episodes needed to be watched over the DC?
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Are the On-Air episodes needed to be watched over the DC?
I've finally got up to the last remaning episodes and I've already seen the first of the Director's Cut which I noticed it's longer than the On-Air so it means it has more content and its story is better told, but should I also watch the On-Air episodes?
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One common recommendation is to go through watching the OA episodes through to 25+26; then go back and watch the DC episodes up to 24' followed by EoE. Some of the additional material is best considered as setup for EoE, it can be argued.
Then you can enter the concurrency debate, and consider whether: if the TV ending and EoE can be combined, then the DC episodes lead into both of them.
Then you can enter the concurrency debate, and consider whether: if the TV ending and EoE can be combined, then the DC episodes lead into both of them.
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There are various threads discussing the differences between OA and DC. Honestly I first watched the show in DC form, and the OA versions lose some of that narrative potency for me.
For what it’s worth, there are some changes made in the DC version of Ep 21 that were made by Anno in response to some misconceptions over various plot elements, so if you want to better understand the conversation and communication that’s being had in the form of art that is motion-picture television and film, then the DC episodes are the way to go.
In then end, there certainly is no harm to watching both. I saw the DC eps and EoTV/EoE first, and then the OAs afterwards. (Even then the OAs aren’t in their truest form, as the version of Ep 23 that initially aired on Japanese television isn’t around in DVD format. If you’re not happy with that middle-ground, you might as well go full-on DC versions and internalize the fact that very small elements of this show will never be like it was on TV.)
For what it’s worth, there are some changes made in the DC version of Ep 21 that were made by Anno in response to some misconceptions over various plot elements, so if you want to better understand the conversation and communication that’s being had in the form of art that is motion-picture television and film, then the DC episodes are the way to go.
In then end, there certainly is no harm to watching both. I saw the DC eps and EoTV/EoE first, and then the OAs afterwards. (Even then the OAs aren’t in their truest form, as the version of Ep 23 that initially aired on Japanese television isn’t around in DVD format. If you’re not happy with that middle-ground, you might as well go full-on DC versions and internalize the fact that very small elements of this show will never be like it was on TV.)
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Pwhodges has the right of it. You need to watch both and in the proper context to really grasp the full picture, especially if you want to talk about it here.
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This is the most recent of the related threads on the DC additions to the OA material -- [url]http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/16715/EoE-and-the-DC-Retcon-or-Not-split/[/url] -- though of course it is full of spoilers as to what the differences are. Most of the controversy really focuses on the changes made in episode 22 (21 adds some more back-story, 23 adds to the angel battle, 24 mainly expands the rather compressed original).
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When I started to watch NGE, I watched the series with the OA episodes first and the series ending. But because of EoE, I watched the series again with the DC episodes instead of the OA ones. And in case of Death, we have three options how to watch NGE:
1st: The main series without the DC episodes, Death and EoE
2nd: The main series without the DC episodes, but instead of ep.25 and 26, Death and EoE (either as Death and Rebirth+EoE or Revival of Evangelion)
3rd: The main series with the DC episodes and instead of ep.25 and 26, EoE
I prefer the 3rd option, because the DC episodes and EoE have a stronger impact on me.
1st: The main series without the DC episodes, Death and EoE
2nd: The main series without the DC episodes, but instead of ep.25 and 26, Death and EoE (either as Death and Rebirth+EoE or Revival of Evangelion)
3rd: The main series with the DC episodes and instead of ep.25 and 26, EoE
I prefer the 3rd option, because the DC episodes and EoE have a stronger impact on me.
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The funny thing it's that most people have never seen the true OA What you can purchase today are the DC redrawn eps without the extra footage, not the original broadcast.
Good for your eyes, bad from a collector's POV. And I agree, If you're gonna watch EoE, you better see DC because the added info make things easier to understand. And well, it's the ultimate form. Remember that it's not discarded footage : it was made after the TV series, for the domestic releases, to add info to the story. And don't forget the the redrawn scenes, a very high rate in ep 22'. Well that ep it's the most changed one (and improved, IMO)
An it's Annos final and ultimate word. But I strongly recommend watch both ways. And if you have access to te true OA, the better, because you can wittness the changes. After that, you can stick to OA because you think that it was fine as it was or NGE with DC+EoE but opening a debate it's like opening Pandora's Box. Probably your opinion will be based on how much do you like Asuka's character.
Good for your eyes, bad from a collector's POV. And I agree, If you're gonna watch EoE, you better see DC because the added info make things easier to understand. And well, it's the ultimate form. Remember that it's not discarded footage : it was made after the TV series, for the domestic releases, to add info to the story. And don't forget the the redrawn scenes, a very high rate in ep 22'. Well that ep it's the most changed one (and improved, IMO)
I prefer the 3rd option, because the DC episodes and EoE have a stronger impact on me
An it's Annos final and ultimate word. But I strongly recommend watch both ways. And if you have access to te true OA, the better, because you can wittness the changes. After that, you can stick to OA because you think that it was fine as it was or NGE with DC+EoE but opening a debate it's like opening Pandora's Box. Probably your opinion will be based on how much do you like Asuka's character.
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Watch it all. The content exists-- and to have a more complete understanding of some of the arguments that go on here, I would completely recommend it.
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Maybe I give a try to the OA Episodes again, if I find them in their truest form. I've seen the comparisons on this site here and I know that the DC episodes are made after the series and the first movies, so they can link these together.
While my expirence with the OA episodes and EoTV is like Requiem for a Dream, the DC episodes and EoE remind me of Begotten. Both are surreal and complex but the latter one feels darker.
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„If you were a better person, you wouldn't be here.“
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„Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously.“
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