3.0+1.0's Troll Potential

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Postby Kid » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:02 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Troll the people frothing at the mouth for an NGE sequel by implying it was an NGE prequel the whole time. (Blame goes to Lavinius for this idea.)

View Original PostintermediateO wrote:Prequel Theory is galaxy brain. We were the FAR all along.


Wait, is Prequel Theory really considered a troll outcome?
Ever since seeing 3.0 in 2012 I felt it was the most likely to be true out of all the -equel Theories

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 am

It's a sequel prequel within a timeloop that happens in concurrency.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:25 am

I'm sure I've come across the Battlestar Galactica version of this theory before - that NTE is a prequel and that "All of this has happened before and will happen again, so say we all..."

Perhaps instead of a Galactica ending, we get the Game of Thrones ending. The Dragons (Evangelions) are all destroyed or sent far away and prince Shinji is crowned the new King of the Lilin!
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:31 am

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Postby Derantor » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:54 am

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:Perhaps instead of a Galactica ending, we get the Game of Thrones ending.

... y u do this to me?

I think the GoT equivalent would look like this:
Shinji -> John Snow. Gets exiled to Nerv Headquarters.
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Misato -> Daeneris. Goes insane and murders everybody, is killed by Shinji
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:42 pm

Title card in the middle of the movie reads “The True Final Impact Was The Friends We Made Alone The Way.”

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Postby Blockio » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:15 pm

I believe you mean "The half of our friends that we lost along the way"

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 am

In Shin Evangelion, the name of the lead Seele figure is revealed NOT to be Keel Lorenz, but Goro Maki. (Goro Maki will then go on to appear in Shin Ultraman.)

Also, google search the amount of kaiju movies that the character Goro Maki has been in, it's kinda wild.

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Postby Blockio » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:27 am

That's an..... interesting detail. Honestly, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Anno sneaking that name in somewhere
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:36 am

The fact that Heisei Godzilla and Shin Godzilla own part of their cast list to Son of Godzilla is one of those crazy details that makes fandoms worth having.

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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:11 pm

The movie:
- includes a scene that builds up to look like the infamous hospital scene in the original movies, only for the squicky bit to either not happen or turn out to be something else altogether (either innocent or psychologically really disturbing).
SPOILER: Show
Or it ends with Shinji molting into Shin-Shinji while he bleeds LCL ebola-infection-style.

- reveals that everything that happened until now is merely a allegorical retelling of one of Anno's psych sessions.
- ends on a scene implying that everything that happened was Asuka playing with her doll in a mental asylum after she suffered Eva's Curse and went mad.
- shows Mari was a huge fan of the original Evangelion who got a bit too much into writing some Mary Sue fanfiction. :tongue:
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:14 am

View Original PostShamsiel-kun wrote:- ends on a scene implying that everything that happened was Asuka playing with her doll in a mental asylum after she suffered Eva's Curse and went mad.

Alternate version, Shin Eva cuts back to the scene in 2.22 where Asuka is playing with the doll on her bed. The last half of 2.22 and all of 3.33 and Shin were all her playing out different hypothetical scenarios the decisions she'll possibly make as an Eva Pilot in Japan.

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Postby intermediateO » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:12 pm

I've been thinking recently how trolly it would be if we get a time travel scene where Shinji goes back to 2nd impact and meets 14 year old Misato.


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Postby kuribo-04 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:49 pm

I've had the thought that maybe the story will end with the Earth's state not fullt recivered, or recovered at all, which depending on the story that will be told could be fitting. But I'm sure some Eva fans would find a way to see it as "trolling" that there are loose ends after 8 years.

Also, every single mistake characters make will be seen as trolling/bad writing.
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Postby intermediateO » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:22 pm

Been thinking...

What if the Wunder is also capable of space travel now and acts as an ark they use to abandon Earth. (It would parallel what the FAR did.)

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Postby Mihrdat » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:30 am

I won't be surprised if Shinji turns into an Evangelion and fights Gendo in the form of an Eva-dragon in the end.

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Postby intermediateO » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:05 am

Hmm...

Seeing that they used Asuka's Shin plugsuit design in the second trailer, the one with the black shoulders, I wonder how exactly they are gonna handle adressing it at the beginning of the film if the trailer shots aren't just false bait. If they don't change it back to the white shoulders she had at the end of 3.0, I think it'll be the first case of a confirmable retcon between movies. (I guess they could maybe make an excuse that the plugsuits have future tech and can change color, though that would definitely feel like a retcon too.)

Or, it could just be a that the trailer shots really are just trolling us again.

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Postby Shun » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:29 am

^
About this, are there any other "mistakes" from one film to another? For example, some signs on the Eva, or in clothes, or at home ...
Because if these weren't mistakes, these could be clues to something else.
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Postby intermediateO » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:53 am

View Original PostShun wrote:^
About this, are there any other "mistakes" from one film to another? For example, some signs on the Eva, or in clothes, or at home ...
Because if these weren't mistakes, these could be clues to something else.


I was thinking the same thing.
BUT, I don't think there's ever been an in-movie change like that. The closest thing to it is some design and shot changes from the 2.0 preview at the end of 1.0, but no inconsistencies I can think of in the movies proper.

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Postby Reichu » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:34 am

When Asuka opens the hatch on Shinji's plug at the end of Q, we can hear that she's winded, as if she rushed to get there and see how he was. Having confirmed his safety, she might now return to her plug (before it is fully converted to core) to take care of any unfinished business there. Here, she could swap out for a spare plugsuit, which would also provide an opportunity for Shinji and the audience to see that Asuka herself is wearing a DSS choker and yes, Shinjj, you really are an insufferable brat who needs to get the fuck over himself.

Or her plugsuit is made of a material that can change its color at the pilot's whim, I dunno.
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