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Re: "EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 AVANT 1 (from beginning to 10:40) Version 0706" discussion and prediction thread
Well, that was definitely interesting
I'm just (as usual with things) taking the "wait and see" approach while chatting about stuff on the Eva Discord.
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Exactly! Last time I checked I do believe it just launched on Netflix, you know, the most popular streaming site in the world!
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Re: "EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 AVANT 1 (from beginning to 10:40) Version 0706" discussion and prediction thread
Wait, what part was that? I heard Ogata say "ketsumatsu" which means ending, not girl. And the French interpreter translated that as "fin", which also means ending.
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So, do you think any of this is actually going to be in the movie itself? Or are they going to pull a Q on us and give us something completely different?
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Re: "EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 AVANT 1 (from beginning to 10:40) Version 0706" discussion and prediction thread
So upon closer inspection, not only do each of the Sachicopters have a Spear of Longinus sticking out of their faces(?????????):
But they have a humanoid silhouette when viewed from above or below:
And dorsal armor like a normal Eva:
Props to Reichu for noticing the armor.
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But they have a humanoid silhouette when viewed from above or below:
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And dorsal armor like a normal Eva:
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Props to Reichu for noticing the armor.
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Re: "EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 AVANT 1 (from beginning to 10:40) Version 0706" discussion and prediction thread
hui43210 wrote:That might the most over the top thing I've ever seen in EVA, utter madness . I was fairly confident that the tower in the poster was Tokyo Tower, but it was it's "older sibling" as it turns out, but Paris looked really good. And now to slip into anxiety as I have to wait another year to see the rest.
There's a rather amusing in-joke in there, I guess, as Tokyo Tower is red and white (but mostly red) and gets demolished in every other giant monster movie and tons of anime. So paint the Eiffel tower red and...demolish it. I see what Anno did there.
BTW, Tokyo Tower has a central pillar, while the Eiffel Tower can (and does) actually stand on its four legs without the need for a central structure. So if it lacks the central pillar, it is the real thing, while the one with the central pillar is the Eastern knock-off.
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Re: "EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 AVANT 1 (from beginning to 10:40) Version 0706" discussion and prediction thread
FrDougal9000 wrote:Man, I haven't been on here in some time, but I thought I'd give my two cents after watching the preview a couple hours ago.
Firstly, I'm really digging the arrangement of Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring they played during the recap. As far as my ears could pick up from the camrip that's going round, I can definitely hear a choir (I'd suspect it's the standard four-person choir Sagisu's been using for yonks going from the sound of it), and I think I can also hear strings as well. I especially like the choral arrangement, so I'm very excited to see if there's a full version of this that'll get released.
Now, as for the preview, I don't have too much to say - mainly because it's a big action sequence full of Eva technobabble, and for the most part, those don't particularly interest me. There's nothing wrong with them, but they're not the reasons I'm interested in the Rebuilds. Still, what was there was pretty entertaining (Mari using the Eiffel Tower to stab the Angel while apologizing to the Tower legit had me howling in laughter at how ridiculous and awesome it is), so I'm glad to see that folks who enjoy those scenes had a good time.
I'm not particularly a lore guy either, but I like how elements such as the hazmat-style suits and the restoration of Paris helped to confirm a couple of fan theories regarding humans' ability to survive the red wastes (or lack thereof) and that the pilots can. That's pretty cool.
Also, I goddamn love Ritsuko wearing her lab coat over the suit. It looks so awesome, and her standing with her arms crossed as she's almost about to be crushed by the Angel before Mari interrupts is the most badass thing I've seen in years.
Man, you would hate to be a member of the Sonic fandom in that case. It pretty much comes with the territory that you have to come up with more interesting ideas for characters than their creators (something I'm not complaining about, incidentally - I think the Sonic series is really fascinating in how it inadvertently lets its fans go wild with ideas by providing just enough suggestions to get them started without restricting their ability to go in directions that resonate with them at the time).
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As an aside, I'd recommend that if anyone's not looking forward to the last film or is only looking to tear into it for whatever reason, it would be a better idea if you choose to ignore it. I'm not even saying that because I don't want to hear bad things about the film (I relish seeing or taking part in that type of discussion since we get to learn each other's perspectives), but because I think you deserve better than to spend your time being angry about things you don't care about. If the last Eva's not something you're passionate about positively and you've only got bad things to say about it, that's perfectly understandable. These new films haven't been for everyone (nor should they be), and I think it's okay if they're not for you.
But in that case, I honestly urge you to find things you are positively passionate about and talk about them instead. You deserve to talk and think about the things that do make you happy and inspire you in any way, instead of only getting mad or depressed at a film you're not even going to enjoy.
Great post! This should be read by everyone.
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Any of their excuses ‘ll turn out cheap. The easiest would‘ve been if they put a guard in the same room as Shinji and Sakura so he could‘ve beaten Shinji into a coma. Anyone would not give a fuck over violating orders and conventions if its for stopping Shinji to escape.
And even Asuka would’ve been able to stop Shinji too. She only deserves to live with his Blood on her hands the same as how Shinji failed her in Matsushiro.
Kats and WILLE were terminaly stupid for not taking the right measures in Shinjis captivity. Then there wouldn‘t be Shinji initiating N4I.
FelipeFritschF wrote:What.
Is this because Shinji somehow has up be at the center of everything? Shinji isn't entrusted with everything because he's childish and dangerous, and he's *also* not responsible for everything, nor does Wille ever say he is. The only one that gives him that impression is Kaworu, while also making Shinji believe everything is about him, again.
I think this preview is further making the case that, boo fucking hoo, there's an entire world beyond Shinji and his very limited and childish perspective.
Any of their excuses ‘ll turn out cheap. The easiest would‘ve been if they put a guard in the same room as Shinji and Sakura so he could‘ve beaten Shinji into a coma. Anyone would not give a fuck over violating orders and conventions if its for stopping Shinji to escape.
And even Asuka would’ve been able to stop Shinji too. She only deserves to live with his Blood on her hands the same as how Shinji failed her in Matsushiro.
Kats and WILLE were terminaly stupid for not taking the right measures in Shinjis captivity. Then there wouldn‘t be Shinji initiating N4I.
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For people wondering where the character development for Mari is, you’ll find it next to the character development for Shigeru Aoba. (Seriously, why on Earth do people think she needs to be more than what is presented? You put a cute girl in skin-tight clothing, and suddenly the whole internet wants to stalk her. Jesus Christ...)
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FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:For people wondering where the character development for Mari is, you’ll find it next to the character development for Shigeru Aoba. (Seriously, why on Earth do people think she needs to be more than what is presented? You put a cute girl in skin-tight clothing, and suddenly the whole internet wants to stalk her. Jesus Christ...)
When you add a new Eva pilot to a popular series, people expect her/him to have very important role in the story and/or more character beyond what she/he currently has, so I understand why people complain about Mari.
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Look that’s great but can we get the girl a bra? That can’t be comfortable.
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Finally, someone asking the right questions
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The Cruel wrote:The first ten minutes for FINAL.
Now I've seen them.
A Mission taking place shortly after 3.0s events in whats left from Paris Post N3I, to retrieve spare parts for Units 2 and 8 and other goods for WILLEs recources.
Confrontations with autonomous Units from NERV are inevitable.
That WILLE has already a method to terraform Post N3I landscapes (even if just tempoarly) makes Kats saying to Shinji that he does nothing anymore now really backstabbing to how they do want to shove their mistakes on Shinji to not be responsible for him.
WILLE can go fuck themselves now. They already crossed the line.
Them saying "Sorry", "Please", "Thank You" and "I love you" to Shinji, deserve to mean shit the same as Gendo saying "Thank you" to Shinji, for how much they're pissed at Shinji for saying these words himself.
And that Mari hopes for Shinji to hold on, she can now reserve her seat at the first row to watch him suffer.
And to top it off, Asuka strangles Shinji in front of Mari. That's who the "Princess" and "Puppy" are for her.
Them forgiving each other makes me sick, for how sure they were to put themselves through all this.
I already stopped caring over the difference between right and wrong in Eva anymore.
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To show there's more there than just a pair of jiggly jugs, I would imagine.
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Anyone with a tendency to reduce a woman to her "jiggly jugs" has their own problems that the writing in a movie won't fix.
The new plugsuit's complete lack of support is ridiculous and inexcusable, but writing-wise Mari is fine. The movies function on their own terms. If people can't accept them on those terms, and keep expecting them to be NGE, then they probably should have realized a while ago that they weren't going to have a good time.
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This has always been obvious to me, but apparently the fact that she pilots an Eva makes people think she is supposed to be much more.
She is there to serve as a contrast to the other characters who suffer piloting their Evas. Mari has fun with it.
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I smell a case for the plugsuits proposed in Proposal.
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As I predicted it's mostly a fightey scene without much character action, but it's got some hot info nonetheless
so it appears that both groups were kinda right - Most of the earth IS ruined (called it!) and unsuited to 'pure' humans though the Pilots are sufficiently transmogrified to stand it to a higher degree (as many had already worked out from Asuka & the detector), but, and here I tip my hat to those who got it right when I didn't, there ARE other settlements, largely where other NERV outposts
It's surely a more accurate reflection of European politics that if there was a Big EU Paramilitary thing, it would be in France not Germany as the original series implies. Demolishing the Eiffel Tower is a nice nod to Nadia too
Was the "predecessor" who left the massage Kaji? (ie he died but played a big role in the resistance?) Why'd they refer to Fuyutsuki not Gendo? He a spy, or was he in charge of strategy?
There continues to be a motif of steadily advancing magitech, the runes that were just kinda implied to be a thing in the past movies all the eway from the first two movies are now actively weaponized like I feel like there'll be much to dissect here, and their tech is enough to at least partially render places/bases semi-habitable
What's also interesting is that the drone EVAs get some "characterization" and "behavior", their roaming the world and forming 'societies'
I did think Nagara had one of the coolest designs though she got the least lines. This being Mari the nickname might just be teasing, she kinda gives everyone nicknames (OR they might be girlfriends who knows? fully possible & plausible but not a necessary conclusion at this point either ) Since she is the Navigator it makes sense that they would be close tho, just from what you'd expect about the sorta person who would Navigate something like the wunder.
Though I think people might be overstating how potent or complete that restoration is - but at least humanity could probably survive in small pockets if SEELE were defeated.
I mean they showed largely the supporting cast as to not to spoil any big whammies but there's a lot of subtle characterization here. Maya has become a cynical leader lady like Ritsuko but you still see a tad of the old Maya shining through here, and just having this comradeship between Mari and Nagara makes their world seem wider for what little time they have for supporting cast in this sort of movie.
I have been practicing some moon speak but it's at a very rudimentary level, I REALLY want that interview translated it might be the real gem here. Anno's writing process and how he sometimes involves the VAs is utterly fascinating to me
For once I wish I had actually paid attention in French class
One thing I could pick out is that Anno actually loves France and visits often which... should have been obvious from 'Nadia' and his use of french artsy themes
Loved how they started with the familiar music too
so it appears that both groups were kinda right - Most of the earth IS ruined (called it!) and unsuited to 'pure' humans though the Pilots are sufficiently transmogrified to stand it to a higher degree (as many had already worked out from Asuka & the detector), but, and here I tip my hat to those who got it right when I didn't, there ARE other settlements, largely where other NERV outposts
It's surely a more accurate reflection of European politics that if there was a Big EU Paramilitary thing, it would be in France not Germany as the original series implies. Demolishing the Eiffel Tower is a nice nod to Nadia too
Was the "predecessor" who left the massage Kaji? (ie he died but played a big role in the resistance?) Why'd they refer to Fuyutsuki not Gendo? He a spy, or was he in charge of strategy?
There continues to be a motif of steadily advancing magitech, the runes that were just kinda implied to be a thing in the past movies all the eway from the first two movies are now actively weaponized like I feel like there'll be much to dissect here, and their tech is enough to at least partially render places/bases semi-habitable
What's also interesting is that the drone EVAs get some "characterization" and "behavior", their roaming the world and forming 'societies'
I did think Nagara had one of the coolest designs though she got the least lines. This being Mari the nickname might just be teasing, she kinda gives everyone nicknames (OR they might be girlfriends who knows? fully possible & plausible but not a necessary conclusion at this point either ) Since she is the Navigator it makes sense that they would be close tho, just from what you'd expect about the sorta person who would Navigate something like the wunder.
Though I think people might be overstating how potent or complete that restoration is - but at least humanity could probably survive in small pockets if SEELE were defeated.
I mean they showed largely the supporting cast as to not to spoil any big whammies but there's a lot of subtle characterization here. Maya has become a cynical leader lady like Ritsuko but you still see a tad of the old Maya shining through here, and just having this comradeship between Mari and Nagara makes their world seem wider for what little time they have for supporting cast in this sort of movie.
I have been practicing some moon speak but it's at a very rudimentary level, I REALLY want that interview translated it might be the real gem here. Anno's writing process and how he sometimes involves the VAs is utterly fascinating to me
For once I wish I had actually paid attention in French class
One thing I could pick out is that Anno actually loves France and visits often which... should have been obvious from 'Nadia' and his use of french artsy themes
Loved how they started with the familiar music too
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