Anybody see the new trailer? Looks mighty impressive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jaI1XOB-bs
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Like I said in another thread on another board, Aronofsky has earned my willingness to see any film he makes. Even his failures are interesting, but The Fountain proved to be one of my favorite films of the last 10 years.
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I've been eagerly awaiting this film since it promised hot Mila Kunis on Natalie Portman action. Wait, that's not the reason at all. Uhhhh, in any case, this trailer has me excited. (Not in THAT way.) It looks better than I thought. Part of me thinks it gives too much away, but part of me was blown away. (Again, not in THAT way.) I love paranoia and bodily transformation. It turns my crank MUCH harder than oily naked, beautiful women and their hot, oily naked woman beautiful lesbian passionate make-out feminine oil sex. Ooooh yes.
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Looks creepy as hell. Since Clint Mansell is behind the soundtrack, it's bound to be something spectacular.
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Just saw it second time after several months (invited to a screening a while back) and it gets even better the second time!
It's odd to say but this is Aronofsky's most entertaining film! It's dark and very unsettling at times but is also tons of fun!
And don't wait for DVD. It's playing in 19 U.S. cities at the moment but DO NOT WORRY folks, the film expands Nationwide to over a thousand screens on December 22.
Hell, you could pull one hell of a double feature with The Coen Brother's TRUE GRIT 2010.
It's odd to say but this is Aronofsky's most entertaining film! It's dark and very unsettling at times but is also tons of fun!
And don't wait for DVD. It's playing in 19 U.S. cities at the moment but DO NOT WORRY folks, the film expands Nationwide to over a thousand screens on December 22.
Hell, you could pull one hell of a double feature with The Coen Brother's TRUE GRIT 2010.
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Brilliant. Absolutely fucking brilliant.
9.5/10 as well.
It reminds me of why I go to the cinema again.
9.5/10 as well.
It reminds me of why I go to the cinema again.
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I've been thinking about Black Swan since I saw it. Thinking about it, but also just visualizing and hearing indelible moments from the film playing in my mind like the clips on the movie's official site. If I start dreaming that dark stuff then I'll need help.
The way I've come to think is that Black Swan is an emotional more than an intellectual movie. I've seen some complaints that the movie is not clever enough, that it's too predictable in its conclusion. On the contrary, Black Swan was designed to evoke the feeling of seeing a ballet, moreso than it was to out-twist M. Night. When seeing a ballet or opera, you benefit by knowing the plot already – so they print the synopsis in the booklet to read before the performance begins. This frees you to revel in the movement, shapes, patterns, the visceral emotional reaction, the aesthetics, without concern for for how it is all going to turn out.
Black Swan builds on that tradition well, building off the romantic tragedy of Swan Lake while subverting it in so many ways. Aronofsky doesn't just give us a ballet on screen, which would feel like a PBS pledge-drive. Instead he uses the simple tale of Swan Lake to craft a Polanski- and Argento-inspired psychological thriller that revels the visceral rather than the cerebral – the way any good ballet should.
I can see why some critics are struggling to categorize this movie and resort to calling it a melodrama. Yes, it wrings emotion from its audience – primarily repulsion and attraction – through exaggerated plot, characters, and music, but I think Black Swan is far too horrific and fantastical to be compared to Sirk or Steel Magnolias. It treats its audience much like Nina did he new pointe shoes. Black Swan, in that way, has more in common with Pan's Labyrinth than it does The Red Shoes.
Appreciating Black Swan is like appreciating modern art, which is often made not to give one an intellectual boner, but to achieve a visceral reaction that resists rational explanation. If anything, a need to scratch that "what does it all mean?" itch can actually cause some people to miss the impact of a piece. I think there is plenty to contemplate, and very clearly defined, and universal, themes that were well-integrated. One could, and should, get all intellectual about Black Swan, but I think it's equally important to let go and just experience it.
The way I've come to think is that Black Swan is an emotional more than an intellectual movie. I've seen some complaints that the movie is not clever enough, that it's too predictable in its conclusion. On the contrary, Black Swan was designed to evoke the feeling of seeing a ballet, moreso than it was to out-twist M. Night. When seeing a ballet or opera, you benefit by knowing the plot already – so they print the synopsis in the booklet to read before the performance begins. This frees you to revel in the movement, shapes, patterns, the visceral emotional reaction, the aesthetics, without concern for for how it is all going to turn out.
Black Swan builds on that tradition well, building off the romantic tragedy of Swan Lake while subverting it in so many ways. Aronofsky doesn't just give us a ballet on screen, which would feel like a PBS pledge-drive. Instead he uses the simple tale of Swan Lake to craft a Polanski- and Argento-inspired psychological thriller that revels the visceral rather than the cerebral – the way any good ballet should.
I can see why some critics are struggling to categorize this movie and resort to calling it a melodrama. Yes, it wrings emotion from its audience – primarily repulsion and attraction – through exaggerated plot, characters, and music, but I think Black Swan is far too horrific and fantastical to be compared to Sirk or Steel Magnolias. It treats its audience much like Nina did he new pointe shoes. Black Swan, in that way, has more in common with Pan's Labyrinth than it does The Red Shoes.
Appreciating Black Swan is like appreciating modern art, which is often made not to give one an intellectual boner, but to achieve a visceral reaction that resists rational explanation. If anything, a need to scratch that "what does it all mean?" itch can actually cause some people to miss the impact of a piece. I think there is plenty to contemplate, and very clearly defined, and universal, themes that were well-integrated. One could, and should, get all intellectual about Black Swan, but I think it's equally important to let go and just experience it.
Gendo'sPapa wrote:And don't wait for DVD. It's playing in 19 U.S. cities at the moment but DO NOT WORRY folks, the film expands Nationwide to over a thousand screens on December 22.
WTF? It's not out in UK and Ireland until febuary? That's wierd. Really looking forward to seeing this. Mila Kunis is just one of those actresses you could just stare at, memorised.
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just saw it
excellent movie. highly recommended.
excellent movie. highly recommended.
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